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How does one reach Tier 5 in the HoO?

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Tier 5 Required

What do I have to do for this?

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#20

Wealth and other individual skill or power benefits the rest of the world in time, just as benefiting the masses (building a public school), raises the cumulative power of all individuals. This is mutual and not something we should be afraid of.

For anyone to grow powerful, this requires the necessary character and ethics to support it. The Theophoric prayers build us in this way, allowing us to reach greater heights because we can sustain such power in a structured, balanced, and constructive manner. The "elites" people think of today are people who are generally not Theophoric, so they eventually go off and do something severely damaging.

That is not us. That is not someone who grows under the Gods. That is not someone who does HOO rituals. We are building a society that is advanced past such social problems.

#21

It’s not enough that the rich are gonna replace us with robots, take our jobs, fuck our money with inflation, and treat us like slaves in general. Just wait till they get access to better gene therapies and who knows what other exotic tech only they’ll be able to afford.

And now they get an easier time to become Gods too. Gotta make sure they’re better than us in every way, because having a lot of money automatically makes you worthy of everything apparently.

Money is the Promethean fire. Try doing the majority of things without money. One extremely Sacred Ritual is half the price of one veneer on a single tooth and a single PlayStation 5, or thirty Domino's Pizzas. Is that too much to ask?

There are ways to get anything beyond money, but you are too busy doubting and being frightened to do that which is simply a waste of your high intelligence.

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#22

It’s not enough that the rich are gonna replace us with robots, take our jobs, fuck our money with inflation, and treat us like slaves in general. Just wait till they get access to better gene therapies and who knows what other exotic tech only they’ll be able to afford.

And now they get an easier time to become Gods too. Gotta make sure they’re better than us in every way, because having a lot of money automatically makes you worthy of everything apparently.

The 8-fold path is the superior method for the betterment of gene-expression, by the way.

Or one can choose to be injected with whatever and to be mutilated in various manners. With heavy consequences.

And you, too, have the tools at your disposal to your betterment, so why this sour attitude? You have the best opportunities at hand, and you cry about someone else's wealth? Make your own, perhaps?

#23

You re entitled to your opinion, but lets say your premise is true. The price of some of these rituals exclude people from certain financial background to achieve godhead. Like I said donate for the furthering of the godly agenda, dont get to stuck on this mentality of you need these rituals to advance to high levels because that is not true. Did Former HPS Pythia possess these rituals? I believe the claim is she reached very high levels. Did she do it because of this knowledge?

Do you think HPS Pythia didn't possess secrete knowledge? If you think you can make your soul immortal by vibrating Raum into your sun chakra or something that is ignorance.

You also don't understand that these rituals would be inaccessible otherwise. They also worth much more than saving up for 50 years for example, if someone needs to do that to acquire a tier 4 ritual. These prices are laughable yes, compared to their worth. Sorry to hurt some feelings but it have been said by Priest Alexandros.

Money is work, you have to work and sacrifice for them yes, you prove your worth like this. Which at this time you need to prove extremely small amount as it is possible in matters of years or decades for some, but even if you have to work 90 years for one single tier 4 ritual then you still worked much less for it than what would be justified in a normal situation, not in an emergency like now.

Some of these are normally outright inaccessible just like it was inaccessible in the past 2000 years, if the enemy wins it will be inaccessible for an extremely long time.

And also not everyone will become a God. Yes It's a possibility but a possibility only a couple of people achieved in the past 10.000 years. So how realistic it is that people come here and almost everyone thinks they'll have risen kundalini in 5-10 years and will achieve godhood by the end of their life. Yes definitely everyone here is a one in a trillion soul who will achieve godhood, surely.

With that I insist as Priest Alexandros said it, that these rituals do what nothing else can, they unlock things that nothing else can. That's about it. Yes some is just a superior method to the public one, but some of these actually do what nothing else can.
Your kundalini will always be chaotic if you don't banish apep, the 12 gates will not open unless you have the keys for them. You cannot remove the seal from your mouth, only with a specific procedure with the Gods.

At the very very least we can conclude that with any other mentality other than complete dedication to the House of the Gods, you'll surely not achieve any monumental level. And financial help is part of that.

Sorry to hurt feelings but yes there are hard-coded limits, you need to prove your worth, and if you don't fight for it with all that you got you'll never even have a chance reach diviner state. Currently is the best chance but I see nobody doing their thing at 100%. And even then, Diviner state is for the most exceptional, the true heroes who save civilizations and do monumental things, not just for any randoms coming here. Sorry. And I'm not arrogant at all, I accept where I'm.

#24

It’s not enough that the rich are gonna replace us with robots, take our jobs, fuck our money with inflation, and treat us like slaves in general. Just wait till they get access to better gene therapies and who knows what other exotic tech only they’ll be able to afford.

And now they get an easier time to become Gods too. Gotta make sure they’re better than us in every way, because having a lot of money automatically makes you worthy of everything apparently.

This mentality some people are having needs to be left behind.
We must improve in ALL ways, this includes financially.
I don’t know where people get the idea that just everybody and their sister gets to become a God for no reason..

that’s like giving average Timmy nuclear warheads to destroy everything .

If you look historically at people from earth who became Gods
It was people who achieved MONUMENTAL feats for civilisation .
They improved themselves and became powerful to contribute to the planet in profound ways.
They worked TIRELESSY and SACRIFICED
And they didn’t have unlimited power at their disposal to do this.
They didn’t sit and say “Gods give this to me all for free and I will contribute later once I’m a God”
They set themselves to build what they could on their own.

I’m sorry but not everybody will become a God in this life by doing basically nothing.
We all have tools here given already that can help us attain wealth, among many other things.

The Gods don’t reward those who claim they will contribute only after they are given great power and it becomes easy for them.

The Gods reward those who build themselves and work with what they already have to become worthy of more.

The average person has NEVER been given secret hidden knowledge by default..
I’m sorry but that was never the case.

It must be understood
When these criticisms are made
That they are criticising the Gods themselves

The Gods don’t want everybody to be a God instantly for doing nothing.. or else they would have it so.
Anybody who doubts this contact the Gods and ask them yourself.

If your not capable of doing that I don’t know why your concerned you are not able to do 12 gates of Ra for free.. because you clearly aren’t ready for that yet anyway.

This isn’t meant to be insulting, we all have steps to make to evolve, one of these steps including navigating this world and achieving wealth . And using the tools to build

Everybody progresses in their own time.
Utilise the tools already given, and they will improve your life immensely and bring growth.
If you are able to attain wealth and to buy rituals .
It is an Investment in the temple but also an investment in the self.

This isnt pointless gate keeping .
Your life can be changed and beyond your dreams with the free material alone.
But if anybody SERIOUSLY thinks they want a chance to become a GOD in this life?
Then they need to start thinking like a GOD

This dosnt happen by waiting for ultimate power to achieve things. Or complaining it’s not already given.

The clergy have these tools for a reason..
It’s not because they complained and did nothing to get them.
It’s because they achieved far beyond what anybody else has. Let’s try to emulate them better and work on our growth

#25

It’s not enough that the rich are gonna replace us with robots, take our jobs, fuck our money with inflation, and treat us like slaves in general. Just wait till they get access to better gene therapies and who knows what other exotic tech only they’ll be able to afford.

And now they get an easier time to become Gods too. Gotta make sure they’re better than us in every way, because having a lot of money automatically makes you worthy of everything apparently.

The rich do not have an easier time with advancing just because they are rich, relax. The free tools are enough, just make sure you save them in a backup somehow. There has been more people than you might think activating the serpent. If the practicioner is free from arrogance, open, mentally flexible he will activate this power.
When I first activated this I remember making a few posts, and I got nothing but mockery and hostility. I learned a lot from this and understood most people are their own worst enemies and are not ready at all for this as this requires hating your weaknesses and submiting totally to change. I was also completely incapacitated in the first 3-4 years after activating this so I doubt anyone who is dependant on a 9-5 schedule can go through this process abruptly like I did. Being open is the key.

#26

Do you think HPS Pythia didn't possess secrete knowledge? If you think you can make your soul immortal by vibrating Raum into your sun chakra or something that is ignorance.

You also don't understand that these rituals would be inaccessible otherwise. They also worth much more than saving up for 50 years for example, if someone needs to do that to acquire a tier 4 ritual. These prices are laughable yes, compared to their worth. Sorry to hurt some feelings but it have been said by Priest Alexandros.

Money is work, you have to work and sacrifice for them yes, you prove your worth like this. Which at this time you need to prove extremely small amount as it is possible in matters of years or decades for some, but even if you have to work 90 years for one single tier 4 ritual then you still worked much less for it than what would be justified in a normal situation, not in an emergency like now.

Im not debating any of that, Im saying you dont need this to reach high levels, and telling people to relax. You are not hurting my feelings like you seem to suggest. Do you have a habit of assuming things? You seem a bit flustered you need to relax.
Peace tranquility relaxation.
I also tell people they should donate all the time Im not questioning the prices. Im merely telling people they should relax.

#27

It’s like people think antichrist Oprah Jesus is going to come and tell everybody to check under their chair for magnum opus.

Being a God isn’t about just power.
It’s about ethics, it’s about character building, power. It’s about working Hard.
It’s the hardest thing you can do.
It takes maximum effort

Nobody became a God by complaining that the rich have it easier.
They simply did not

#28
This is the targeted message.

Money is the Promethean fire. Try doing the majority of things without money. One extremely Sacred Ritual is half the price of one veneer on a single tooth and a single PlayStation 5, or thirty Domino's Pizzas. Is that too much to ask?

There are ways to get anything beyond money, but you are too busy doubting and being frightened to do that which is simply a waste of your high intelligence.

To get to tier 5 someone would have to spend about $XXXX to give an estimate, maybe more.

Even in the US the annual salary isn’t that high, and factoring a lot of people are living paycheque to paycheque, it won’t be easy.

I won’t say it’s impossible for most Zevists to ever be able to afford the higher tier ones, especially with the help of the more affordable lower tier ones, but if HP’s desire behind HOO’s purpose is to create a lot of heroes, the pricing on the high tier rituals especially is going to make that process really slow. He laboured to format these rtituals so it’s definitely his choice on how to price them. If he’s happy with this then so be it.

#29

Purification isnt a one-time scrub, its a systematic "tuning" of the subtle body. The main methods found in texts like the hatha pradypika and the sat chakra nirupana include:
Nadi Shodhana (Channel Cleansing) ( the naddhis).
Seed mantras: Each chakra vibrates at a specific frequency. However I prefer to just use Raum for all the chakras along the spine. I dont even work on the chakras in middle, it does nothing for me, except for the middle Ajna in the brain.
Tattwa Shuddhi (Elemental Purification): this is done with specific visualization exercices. I never tried it.
Shaktipat: Some texts emphasize that while you can do the "heavy lifting" through effort, true purification often requires the awakening of Kundalini which is like fire.
I said in 2021 the final Ritual only fully works and you will feel an immense pleasurable relief with this ritual if you have an awakened kundalini. Probably because hebrew is a language that represents decaying blocking dirty forces that naturally develop on deceased planets. These act like mud on your naddhis. Once you feel this "mud" leaving your naddhis in the brain, the relief is beyong words and is nothing like youve felt before.
Can you reach a point where purification is no longer required?
Yes according to the texts, there is a definitive "finish line" though it is considered a state of high spiritual evolution. When a practitioner achieves Sahaja Samadhi a state of enlightenment, the chakras are no longer viewed as "valves" that need opening. At this stage the practitioner identifies with the Atman (Self). From the texts it is clear you will need purification and purging until you become your full higher self. And this corroborates what I said above about how I still go through major purging "seasons" roughly every 1.2 years with serpent surges. Ever since the awakening in 2016. The cleasing purifying fire is so powerful my appearance is slightly tuned in just around one to two months of this purging seasons. You can use AI to run these texts and find out what ascended masters who wrote these texts described happening. Gopi krishna went through what I went but he never did anything with it and couldnt fine tune his body because most outsiders just toy with these tecniques and arent actual life affirming immortality seeking people that actually understand spirituality at a minimum level to do anything with this energy. All he had to do was use solar mantras after this point to purge the spine centers and he would attain very high levels. But hindus would rather tell you how much they arent attached to their ego or whatever that means.

You are not incorrect in this; yes, of course, the practices in ToZ can and would raise the serpent. That is still however a big maybe. People who meditate endless hours in the East, might have even "raised" the so called "serpent". Yet they cannot even do arithmetic, can't tell you any materially important knowledge, or cannot have basic reason. This is not evolution; this is just energetic openess.

To elevate the force is one thing; to know about it and further things after it, are another. There are many deeper aspects into this past the so called "serpent raising", which as you say, mean little if one doesn't know more things. There's far more than what Gopi Krishna done. This requires patience, serious work, serious goals.

Sorry to hurt feelings but yes there are hard-coded limits, you need to prove your worth, and if you don't fight for it with all that you got you'll never even have a chance reach diviner state. Currently is the best chance but I see nobody doing their thing at 100%. And even then, Diviner state is for the most exceptional, the true heroes who save civilizations and do monumental things, not just for any randoms coming here. Sorry. And I'm not arrogant at all, I accept where I'm.

This is true and factual. Many unfortunately due to misplaced, "Left hand path", free-for-all perceptions, did assume total deception on these topics. These deceptions, arose because of the typical human spirit of convenience and lazyness. "I'll just open a website and do the Magnum Opus really quick; because Gods will it". All of this, comes from Western dumb perceptions of the likes of Aleister Crowley.

There was no such action or belief in the Ancient World or in the Mysteries of the past. None. These are all made up nonsense by people who seldom have an idea of these topics; it's baseless assumptions that never work. One cannot achieve ultimate totality and equality to the Gods, without in the very least, actively working the path and rising higher. The Gods gave Hercules labors to do, not to just sit down, do nothing and sacrifice nothing. Egyptian priesthood required a decade of training or more to do phenomenal feats such as miraculous healings and related.

It’s like people think antichrist Oprah Jesus is going to come and tell everybody to check under their chair for magnum opus.

Being a God isn’t about just power.
It’s about ethics, it’s about character building, power. It’s about working Hard.
It’s the hardest thing you can do.
It takes maximum effort

Nobody became a God by complaining that the rich have it easier.
They simply did not

It's delusional to say that the rich have it easier. Maybe they have it easier in some domains; for example, material provisions. But that does not guarantee mental or spiritual health or happiness or a myriad of other things. Maybe one has a good wife and they don't. Maybe one has a family and they don't. There are too many things in life, that one will not consider.

It's just that the Western civilization is materially obsessed [and this obsession leads to the conclusion that wealth is the only thing]. Unironically, people are obsessed over solely materialism, as thus they project on people that do better, that maybe these people have everything.

They don't understand they might also have internal and many other problems, and they stay solely on the fact that maybe they are rich. As for the topic how many sacrifices, risks, or generational sacrifices this might have taken them [whole generations might have died working so a consequential one, could be rich, might have occurred], this is not even thought over. The truth is 9 out of 10 rich people had to fight their guts to do better in this area, only 1 out of 10 is actually just an inheritor or someone who "lucked out".

I won’t say it’s impossible for most Zevists to ever be able to afford the higher tier ones, especially with the help of the more affordable lower tier ones, but if HP’s desire behind HOO’s purpose is to create a lot of heroes, the pricing on the high tier rituals especially is going to make that process really slow. He laboured to format these rtituals so it’s definitely his choice on how to price them. If he’s happy with this then so be it.

Objectively speaking, to say that this is my choice is most convenient. I did not exactly create the laws and reality of the human economy, however.

If I were to put actual prices of this, they would be around 10 or 20 times higher than today. They, objectively, cost "more than money" in anyway. Yet at the same time, the ToZ requires certain realistic outcomes to exist:

1. Power
2. Objective acts
3. Evolution of members (including the breaking of mentally imposed barriers such as you not wanting to help or/advance)

This creates a precedent where the tasks have to be done and everyone has to mobilize.

Objectively the nails of Nicki Minaj cannot be costing more than divine instruments - yet they do. However, there has to be a line within the achievable aim (which is achievable via major work as well; many T4 are there because of major work, not donations) and the realistic truth of reality.

Without touch of reality, one can expect nothing at all to emerge from anything. You can ask for Temples and greatness for all people all day, but unless this is done, there is nothing to expect in the realistic world.

It’s not enough that the rich are gonna replace us with robots, take our jobs, fuck our money with inflation, and treat us like slaves in general. Just wait till they get access to better gene therapies and who knows what other exotic tech only they’ll be able to afford.

And now they get an easier time to become Gods too. Gotta make sure they’re better than us in every way, because having a lot of money automatically makes you worthy of everything apparently.

In that landscape the "rich" do not have any format; many have sent to request for the Rituals just for "financial aptitude" and 9 out of 10 have been rejected as they don't want to functionally do nothing for the ToZ. Therefore that argument is invalid in regard to ToZ.

Blurring all lines to penaltize "all rich people" and equating the Zevist with Jeff Bezos or Sam Altman, is essentially illogical. Albeit both might have financial power, one would use it for the Gods, themselves and important goals, others would spend it for nothing at all or for abusive reasons.

Also, the system is created in this way: The powerful, help the Community and the Community helps the whole - even those who have nothing, by creating the best conditions for them also.

Instead of comparing to them like you do socially in the external world, one must understand that people here, no matter from where they come, form a functional whole. Numerous things which are core importance for the Gods to exist materially, were done by these people, including fending attacks, tending to problems etc. Many others who pose the spirit of ungreatfulness, don't care for their good acts and of course, they try to say they that they don't matter or they get a treatment.

Yes when the actions of a person will in the future assist 10,000 people to have a roof under the Gods, are not equal to those of a complainer that never cared and just came around to help nobody. There is a magnitude of sacrifice and actions that must be protected and these people must be helped; unironically, to provide more roof and more footing for others who cannot.

The more materially able Zevist, is not your enemy, nor they are the person you describe. We must cherish and welcome their success. They are someone who has ascended in the material domains and lended their hand, of all means, to those not yet acclaimed enough to rise to higher material categories. That is in itself a divine act of heroism, as they are conquering the material, to provide for the tasks of the Gods. They should be celebrated and supported.

Instead of attacking them in passive aggressive manners, one might as well thank them for this, and thank them for not being like Jeff Bezos for example. They uphold the roof for others to come complain below, over.

#30

If I can share a personal story.
I was discouraged by the price of certain things in HoO
Not because I felt it unfair.
But Simply because I felt it was unattainable for me.

This adversity helped build my character and rethink many things in my life, as zevism always has.

I changed my spending, I started learning new things. I started trying to figure out how to achieve these things.

I asked the Gods for help.
And they did.
But their help didn’t come in the form of winning the lottery.

This help came in the form of guidance..
I started thinking about different career paths, different opportunities.

I am now working towards a compete career change, which will take a few years before the fruits are ready to be harvested.. but it will help me be able to donate to the temple at a higher rate for the rest of my working life. Not just short term
Is this easy or instant? No

I bought tier 2 finance rituals, this aided me too

I had to save up for these and stop buying other things . I had to work extra when I was tired.
I even got approved for a loan for a higher tier ritual.
Even this loan wasn’t easy.. I had to keep trying and failing and trying because it was very important to me.

The money rituals helped change my mentality

I also became interested in other things, thinking about how once I have higher income from new career, I can invest my money for a better financial future, learn other high income skills.

This resulted in a higher confidence and self worth, and sense of fulfilment , and a drive to better myself. I think even more about my shortcomings and things I need to work on, in All areas of life . THIS IS PART OF THE PATH

Do I dream of rituals still that are beyond what I can’t afford ?
Of course I do. That’s natural
I want to achieve more.
And I work to achieve more .
Am I tier 5? No
But I’m already WAY further than I ever thought possible . And still working for more.

This whole process helps me mature and grow as a person, which makes me better for my family, my temple , and myself.
And at first I felt HOPELESS.

But not only this, what are my motivations ?
I want self fulfilment yes, but I also want to contribute.
I told the Gods I would donate majority of my wealth.

NOT JUST WHEN IM RICH
But as I have it to give.

It took some time but I have done this, and I continue to do this, and the more I do this the easier it starts to become.

Part of this is help from the Gods, part of this is I become better at working at it.
If I buy All rituals it does not mean I stop donating.
I still vow to donate as much as I can

what people need to remember is that the whole mission we have here is to grow this temple and work for the Gods.

This isn’t a fairytale where the Gods come give us everything for no reason .
Gods are our parents, they don’t always give fish (they do) but more importantly they teach us how to fish

You ever see spoiled children who work for nothing? Not many have good Character tools to better themselves or their spawn.

the Gods reward and smile upon those who work and care for their mission.
it’s not about going hungry .
Don’t deprive yourself of necessities of life.
But this situation of our mission is serious one and needs to be taken seriously .

If you have money for Netflix and McDonald’s but not able to save up money to help yourself get Egyptian financial blessing . (Even if it takes a long time)
Or to give back to Gods mission on earth.
Then the Gods will not help you be rich.
Or if you ask for help from Gods, they show you the path, and you don’t want to walk it because of laziness or other things. Then again they won’t make you rich.

Nature isn’t fair and we all start at different places in life, the path is about improving this place for this life and the next life.
Even if you’re currently struggling just to survive, the Gods understand this and you have tools you can use to better your situation without paying anybody .

I’m not rich. But I asked the Gods for guidance and they show me I need to work harder. So I will. And I Do.
Hope this helps

#31

To get to tier 5 someone would have to spend about $XXXX to give an estimate, maybe more.

We’re censoring my estimates now, I didn’t mention a specific price for any ritual. I mean I could just be bad at maths and it’s actually far lower than what I gave as an approximation, but it being censored validated my estimate.

Anyone who donates can look around and make their own estimates anyway. I’d have to say I was quite angry when I looked at them, maybe because I couldn’t afford them myself, but I’m in good company because 90%+ of people here couldn’t either.

Maybe I could contribute in another way as HP has explained, but that’ll be for more private conversations.

#32

There are two types of people in this world:

One sees a good house and they are like "wow, I want one too, let's see how I can better myself to have it".

Another type is "meh, a good house. fuck this house. I hate seeing this, it means someone is doing better. I don't deserve it either so why does this lucky bloke have it".

Difference is both see the same house. One person believes they can do better; even if they don't get it, their mentality will better everything. It won't matter in the end about the house, what will matter is that they did better than by not putting a higher goal.

The second person will always have nothing to expect, but the worst. They chose to essentially tell themselves nothing will ever happen, and to not only ruin this in their own mind, but tell themselves and brand themselves as incapable of doing anything.

Zevists should have understood by now, it's not even about the house or what it is. It's about the mental switch. The person in the first case has move over to the creative mentality; they opened up prospects of themselves. Even if it looked like a delusion, they opened up. All the people who have elevated in life, if their life did not support it, they started with a delusional hope. Then they worked on it and achieved things they never previously expected.

The second category just has no dreams, they decided they will never attain nothing, blame themselves and others for it, and call it a day. This doesn't even require to dream, to work, or to be courageous. It's just pressing the quit button.

#33

We’re censoring my estimates now, I didn’t mention a specific price for any ritual. I mean I could just be bad at maths and it’s actually far lower than what I gave as an approximation, but it being censored validated my estimate.

Anyone who donates can look around and make their own estimates anyway. I’d have to say I was quite angry when I looked at them, maybe because I couldn’t afford them myself, but I’m in good company because 90%+ of people here couldn’t either.

Maybe I could contribute in another way as HP has explained, but that’ll be for more private conversations.

Don't worry mate. I also look sometimes at the Olympics and I realize I will never have a gold metal. Never in this lifetime, I will get an Olympics Gold Metal. This includes me and 99.99% of the human population. Whatever, it is what it is.

I was an athlete but nature didn't grace me with Gold Medal genes, determination, family background, resolve and athletic aptitude.

Eventually I understood in due time how much admiration these people deserve. They are rare cases and they deserve our total admiration. They go through pain that would bend most people. In other areas of life it's the same.

Not everyone will have everything in this world, the universe works that way. The longer you debate it and the more your mind does self-fulfilling loops of destruction such as "we are in good company here because these cannot be afforded" you are writing a self castration loop.

#34

Why are people still lamenting over the Hall of Osiris ritual prices and not just out there in the world straight killing it, working on getting and finding every single avenue and propelling like a rocket towards the sun?

If you truly want to get up to this extent. THEN SIMPLY DO IT. Or at LEAST attempt to become unfathomably rich and powerful.
What do you have to lose from TRYING? Absolutely nothing.

What do you have to lose from not trying to become INFINITELY GREATER then you are now? Everything, you have none of this hope and accept to get nothing in return.
Become rich, buy the rituals. Just evolve and go and do it.

Study finances, wealth, entrepreneurs, walk this route and become unstoppable.
You have endless things to gain from this.

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
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#35

One more thing.
If I was to not achieve something in this world
Be it tier 5 or anything else .
I would rest much better knowing that I tried my absolute best and did everything I could.
Rather than self defeating mentality before I even start .
Then at least one can be proud of their effort in trying and achievements along the way

#36

To get to tier 5 someone would have to spend about $XXXX to give an estimate, maybe more.

Even in the US the annual salary isn’t that high, and factoring a lot of people are living paycheque to paycheque, it won’t be easy.

I won’t say it’s impossible for most Zevists to ever be able to afford the higher tier ones, especially with the help of the more affordable lower tier ones, but if HP’s desire behind HOO’s purpose is to create a lot of heroes, the pricing on the high tier rituals especially is going to make that process really slow. He laboured to format these rtituals so it’s definitely his choice on how to price them. If he’s happy with this then so be it.

People spend their annual salary money on clothes, cars, consoles, mobiles, food, plastic surgery, degrees, alcohol, cigarettes and vapes, vacations and houses easily even when they live like that. Anyone can donate in cumulative amounts too, not all at once.

Heroes must be patient.

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#37

Why are people still lamenting over the Hall of Osiris ritual prices and not just out there in the world straight killing it, working on getting and finding every single avenue and propelling like a rocket towards the sun?

If you truly want to get up to this extent. THEN SIMPLY DO IT. Or at LEAST attempt to become unfathomably rich and powerful.
What do you have to lose from TRYING? Absolutely nothing.

What do you have to lose from not trying to become INFINITELY GREATER then you are now? Everything, you have none of this hope and accept to get nothing in return.
Become rich, buy the rituals. Just evolve and go and do it.

People like feeling poor, because then they have something to complain about.

"Damn rich people!!!"

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I am reaching towards a green apple.

#38

People like feeling poor, because then they have something to complain about.

"Damn rich people!!!"

I know how this feels as I was destitute much of life. But past a point of frustration, people must decide to claw their way out of this, or at least try to carve a future that is better some how.

The process varies, but regardless one must climb and grow as a being materially.

“Come to me, O Lord IAO, great Zeus-Ammon, hidden fire, all-seeing one, ram-horned, first and last, who rules from the sun.”
PGM V.96–172

“I am Atum, when I was alone in Nun. I am the beginning and the end.”
Coffin Texts, Spell 714

(Enki of Eridu, Lord of the Earth -- Poem)
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#39

How could there be places of value in this world when everyone would just exist in the self-limiting mentality of scarcity and penury?
It's a well-hidden disease of the mind, and the first step towards healing it is actually becoming aware of it. The second step is starting to use your willpower, and applying it on the physical realm. There is this great quote by Henry Ford, most appropriate in this context:
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.

The thinking you do today paves your future path, so thoughts should be chosen wisely.

After getting things right on the personal level, the other important part is choosing deliberately to support the creation of valuable structures of communal good, like our Temple here. If no one gave a single fuck, if everybody would just be extremely busy with their own personal limited existence, then we would have nothing of value. No Forums, no websites to learn from, nothing.

Some people want to be more, to achieve more, so they literally reach out their hand towards the more, followed by real action, and they make it happen. This is how one grows. So stop moaning and grow. There is no other way.

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