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Feeling that meditations are for losers

Def1ler

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I know the title sounds bad, and it was by design to grab some attention, what I mean is that I feel like most normal people don't meditate, and that I do it because my life is a mess. I don't have an immediate course of action to solve all of the issues that plague me, but at the same it feels like trying to make up for things that I'm missing. If I do a working for intelligence, for example, I feel like all I'm doing is trying to compete with others who don't have to do this to be smart. Same applies to physical strength, or to improving charisma or anything really. I've never seen a normie consciously improve, and I feel like they don't need to. In the course of life of a normal person he or she wouldn't need to do these things. A normal person doesn't need to do spells for charisma, they just have decent personality, or love spells, they just find someone, or money spells, they just earn money one way or another. It just feels like I deviated from the path of a functional human and I need to do this to cure this dysfunction. I sit to meditate and before going into a trance I have to fight these thoughts, it's tiring. By the time I start meditating I already feel like shit. What is a better mindset to have regarding this? I know that if this was as useless as I make it out to be you guys wouldn't be doing it. What's the trick for being able to keep going?
 
(nothingness) <= u can trying this for u, iread u're post maybe that good for u that can be combine with void meditation with same one understanding.
 
Void meditation and closing chakras has always helped me. For example if I'm at work with people around me and I feel like crap I remind myself that I am absorbing the negative energies from other people which in turn is making me create them.
If I were to look and focus on one specific spot in the room and only concentrate my thoughts to the air entering and leaving my body for a solid 3 - 5 mins, I feel recharged. Or if i close my chakras it nearly feels like someone is lowering the volume of all the shit thoughts - something I wished I did more of.

You are not trying to compete with others and perhaps those thought forms are coming from the people around you - bad energies. For example a co-worker could appear to be smart, charismatic or charming but that doesn't mean they have 'good intentions'. This co-worker who knows they are charismatic could purposely interrupt your conversation with someone you are interested in and they know well that they can steal away this person from you using their traits and in turn offloads those bad energies onto you thus making you feel the way you do.

This has happened to me a few times and when this person comes out of the blue and trys to use their wits to win over this person of interest. We absord these negative energies and emit them causing us to repel these people of interest away from us.

I am not expert but this is my personal experience I've had.
Hope it might help you.

Hail Father Satan and The True Gods of this world!
 
rome was builed brick by brick. nothing comes instantly expect in special cases. what you reffering to as "normal" people, those people are average in any aspect of life. and how do you know those people dont use "magic"? People do this many times without being aware of it with their thoughts especially obsessions. They don't have the knowledge to know that. The life of many ss is not easy and there are many reasons for this, but you have a huge advantage to develop now and it will stay with you in the next life as well. the first steps on the path are always the hardest in my opinion, for me it took many years to realize that this path is the only way to overcome the hardships of life. after years of suffering, i decided to move the needle and couple months later i already found peace.

start with cleaning your aura.
if you just have intrusive thoughts, realize this:
thoghts are just like clouds, they come and go, if you engage with some sort of thought, then your brain will get you more of them. its just how things work.

if the source of your thoghts are trauma symptoms when your body enters to "survival mode" then you need to adress the issue, and understand the source of the cause. aura cleaning usually brings all those emotions to surface and then when you understand yourself better, you can choose how you will handle it spiritually.

its also already told that the gods are much protective and great teachers for newbies. talk more to satan and ask for help.

be well.
 
You are not trying to compete with others and perhaps those thought forms are coming from the people around you - bad energies. For example a co-worker could appear to be smart, charismatic or charming but that doesn't mean they have 'good intentions'. This co-worker who knows they are charismatic could purposely interrupt your conversation with someone you are interested in and they know well that they can steal away this person from you using their traits and in turn offloads those bad energies onto you thus making you feel the way you do...
Void meditation is the hardest one to do for me, but I will try harder, thank you. As for this bit, good intentions are not relevant here. If the person in your example does pull that off, that is already a loss for me if I'm interested in the person I'm talking to. Maybe what you're suggesting is to apply stoicism: not care about the loss. But you would understand that it is only human to feel bad if such a thing occurred. While this hasn't happened to me yet, I doubt that it is simply this person giving me bad energies. What happened is that I lost, and losing feels bad.


rome was builed brick by brick. nothing comes instantly expect in special cases. what you reffering to as "normal" people, those people are average in any aspect of life. and how do you know those people dont use "magic"? People do this many times without being aware of it with their thoughts especially obsessions. They don't have the knowledge to know that.
I haven't thought about it like that. Maybe they are unaware. But shouldn't an SS be better off than these people if one can channel the energy consciously?


start with cleaning your aura.
if you just have intrusive thoughts, realize this:
thoghts are just like clouds, they come and go, if you engage with some sort of thought, then your brain will get you more of them. its just how things work.
Thank you for the advice.

its also already told that the gods are much protective and great teachers for newbies. talk more to satan and ask for help.
I have tried meditating on sigils, but it might take a while before I receive any guidance.

(nothingness) <= u can trying this for u, iread u're post maybe that good for u that can be combine with void meditation with same one understanding.
Thanks, guess void meditation is the way to go.
 
Are you saying that the Gods are the biggest losers because they meditate the most? Don't say anything stupid here. Only the laziest and stupidest people enjoy being lazy all the time, and only the most failed losers choose to do nothing and stay in this world while their bodies rot away.
 
I haven't thought about it like that. Maybe they are unaware. But shouldn't an SS be better off than these people if one can channel the energy consciously?

Sure SS should be better. By being mindful of what we think. We can practice void meditation and save the energy for day dreaming in a controlled way or more effective things while the average person cannot control his thoughts and feelings. This meditation also helps to develop the ability to enter a trance quickly in addition to all the other benefits. power meditation raises the levels of boielectricity in the body therefore our work and our thoughts will have more power, and with all our control we can achieve what we want
 
Even if that was true for you that shouldn’t get in the way of you meditating, just accept you need a little more help then everyone else and that you are lucky enough to discover things other people don’t have the time or motivation to try.

I personally have always been thin no matter what I eat or how much of it, so I never got into fitness, someone who was once a fat loser who learned about and applied the effort to get skinny probably looks better then me with a shirt off.

Also emotional and mental changes are the thing that occur with frequent meditations. Magic is the process of transforming the soul. So you’d be a lot happier if you did them but if you’re just doing stuff in the hopes of physical results you’d end up disappointed meany people burn out of Satanism because stuff doesn’t happen when you just cast the spells, you need to follow up on what you do with physical action.
 
I know the title sounds bad, and it was by design to grab some attention, what I mean is that I feel like most normal people don't meditate, and that I do it because my life is a mess. I don't have an immediate course of action to solve all of the issues that plague me, but at the same it feels like trying to make up for things that I'm missing. If I do a working for intelligence, for example, I feel like all I'm doing is trying to compete with others who don't have to do this to be smart. Same applies to physical strength, or to improving charisma or anything really. I've never seen a normie consciously improve, and I feel like they don't need to. In the course of life of a normal person he or she wouldn't need to do these things. A normal person doesn't need to do spells for charisma, they just have decent personality, or love spells, they just find someone, or money spells, they just earn money one way or another. It just feels like I deviated from the path of a functional human and I need to do this to cure this dysfunction. I sit to meditate and before going into a trance I have to fight these thoughts, it's tiring. By the time I start meditating I already feel like shit. What is a better mindset to have regarding this? I know that if this was as useless as I make it out to be you guys wouldn't be doing it. What's the trick for being able to keep going?
Normies also go to school, go to the gym, go to therapy, practice music, work on their dating, etc. All of this, including meditation, is a practice of evolution of one's self, but with meditation you can evolve much quicker, as you work with energy itself.

It sounds more like you are feeling a bit overly sensitive about yourself relative to others, but this exists whether or not you meditate. Did you feel the same when studying for tests in a school setting?

Keep at it, because you will see your goals and desires manifest before your eyes, including things in which normies struggle to change. This should help restore your confidence in this path, but you first have to be a bit more realistic and not so harsh towards yourself. You don't normally see what the average person is going through, internally, so this is why it could seem like they are "ahead" of you.

Also, please don't state that the Gods do not meditate, just based on your personal misconception that meditation is only something weak people do. Meditation is synonymous with evolution and therefore continues forever. Those who are stronger and more advanced meditate and therefore evolve at exponentially greater levels.
 
but with meditation you can evolve much quicker, as you work with energy itself
So it's like a buff then? As in, meditation is not the solution, but it can boost the actions I perform in real life?

Keep at it, because you will see your goals and desires manifest before your eyes, including things in which normies struggle to change. This should help restore your confidence in this path, but you first have to be a bit more realistic and not so harsh towards yourself. You don't normally see what the average person is going through, internally, so this is why it could seem like they are "ahead" of you.
I know it goes against what you say here, but do you know or have something akin to experiments or small workings that I can try to boost my motivation short term? If not, that is also okay, I'll follow your advice.

Also, please don't state that the Gods do not meditate, just based on your personal misconception that meditation is only something weak people do. Meditation is synonymous with evolution and therefore continues forever. Those who are stronger and more advanced meditate and therefore evolve at exponentially greater levels.
I apologize, I did not know They still meditated.
Thanks for the reply Blitzkreig

Sure SS should be better. By being mindful of what we think. We can practice void meditation and save the energy for day dreaming in a controlled way or more effective things while the average person cannot control his thoughts and feelings.
All right, then I'll give void meditation a fair shot. Thanks for the reply.
 
This is normal, your mind wants to fight you and find excuses or "reasoning" why this would not be the path. This is because of programming and having an imprisoned mind, which again, most people will encounter this at first. Resolve these things one by one, and in this case, knowledge will resolve this. All people are destined on a certain path of life due to the natural and impersonal nature of their planets. This means that their free will and choice does not hold any real weight, and transformation or deliberate path can be almost impossible, to not say certainly impossible. However, with Spiritual Satanism, this free will gathers value and weight, power, and you - as the real you - can discover yourself and define yourself in this world, and not let all of this happen as a passive thing in a vicious loop.

Indeed, you have to figure out life at the base level, or at least proportional of your present abilities, and this is not due to some Miracle Magick but growth in life, in general. Magick and meditation are about the true growth aspect of this, about not wasting endless lives in confusion, about gathering clarity and power so that you create and live your life truly. Spirituality will not replace material existence, but embrace it and bless it and the same should materiality do for spirituality, allow and bless. The outsiders don't even have the understanding that there can be a choice, I'm sure some of them would give their all to have this choice and path, opportunity to AT LEAST TRY.

The same reasoning that you do here should be applied to pure logic in other matters. If we have legs, and people walk..everybody seems do to so, why create a machinery where you can enter and by doing some pleasurable motions, you get to the destination? Why do people need to learn math and engineering and have labor force, to create these cars? What's the need to buy one when I can walk these km/miles on foot? Well, if you go on foot, you might travel to another country in a few months to years. But if you get a car, you'll get there in a day. The same applies to using your mind powers to get what you want. Love, knowdlege, money etc.
 
Just let go and relax.. and see what you can accomplish? With void mediation. It wasn't easy for me to learn either. I become very critical of myself, and started to lash out at everyone on here because..i had a hard time trying to figure it out. And that's something that we have to learn to do regardless of how we think and feel! When somebody lets go of their silly fears? And takes that moment? To just relax and give in to it.. even if it's just for 15 minutes. You really feel a difference! And then you begin to feel much better about yourself and more confident. And then when you start making a habit out of it? It gets easier and easier.
 
I know the title sounds bad, and it was by design to grab some attention, what I mean is that I feel like most normal people don't meditate, and that I do it because my life is a mess. I don't have an immediate course of action to solve all of the issues that plague me, but at the same it feels like trying to make up for things that I'm missing. If I do a working for intelligence, for example, I feel like all I'm doing is trying to compete with others who don't have to do this to be smart. Same applies to physical strength, or to improving charisma or anything really. I've never seen a normie consciously improve, and I feel like they don't need to. In the course of life of a normal person he or she wouldn't need to do these things. A normal person doesn't need to do spells for charisma, they just have decent personality, or love spells, they just find someone, or money spells, they just earn money one way or another. It just feels like I deviated from the path of a functional human and I need to do this to cure this dysfunction. I sit to meditate and before going into a trance I have to fight these thoughts, it's tiring. By the time I start meditating I already feel like shit. What is a better mindset to have regarding this? I know that if this was as useless as I make it out to be you guys wouldn't be doing it. What's the trick for being able to keep going?
Just try it! Yesterday I woke up with incredible energy, fueled by my meditation practice and connection with the Gods. It was one of the most memorable days of 2024 for me. I had inspiring dreams and a desire to evolve that I hadn't felt for a long time. It motivated me to create plans for my mental and spiritual growth

Meditation should be a pleasurable experience. If you feel uncomfortable, maybe you're doing something wrong. Remember that life is not a competition, it's not healthy to compare yourself, as you yourself have shown, it's not good for you. Those charismatic and successful people we admire didn't achieve their success overnight, with or without magic. They had to search and learn somewhere. If you don't see the point in performing spells to improve yourself, look for more traditional methods. Do what works for you and makes you happy
 
You think what those people who are normies don’t have problems or are more losers then is spiritual Satanists here? Those guy have so many problems they would rather lie to others around them or online or in person. Just so others don’t find out. Also none of the normies are doing shit for themselves except acting like submissive slaves to their Jewish masters and bosses they work for. None of them work on themselves on the spiritual level of their souls and auras to obtain anything. Just wait tell any hardship happened to any important institution like our economy olthese guys would loose all their money after they get laid off and whatever lover life they had. Since all romance in our society now is date someone to f with or for money especially if your one of those one white colored girls out there.since many women are tuaght that a man with no job is a loser and a bum or a comeplete burden. While these same women go around wanting me to give them money or buy them things or buy them food for free which is what you would think a homeless vagrant would do and not some woman who freaking say she works and doesn’t need a man feminist bullshit. No these people won’t last long and would be dead before you know it while we survive and conquer as more advanced and enlightened beings for Father Satan. Plus many of the normies i know would not ever think to go and be interested in Adolf Hitler and National Socialism. Cuz they don’t want to make the Jews mad cuz they would lose friends. Or none of those same people rather kill themselves if they didn’t have a job rather then ask in public for handouts just to get something to eat. While working also in their souls and advancing themselves. Also whoever tells you that meditation is for losers is just a projecting loser projecting the ear own losses on you. Plus Ihave done meditation and spells and result ed in many great thi my s just by being dedicated I got into university I wanted moved out of that shit immigrant foster family of mine now work a part time job, have no sadness can socialize a lot better I have more charisma now in my life! I now live in a dorm room I wanted to live in at university made some great friends at university. Graduated from community college am now a history major so I can teach about what I love which is history. Plus many of my enemies are practically had their lives f ed up from any spells I had to send to them. I now have more money to go out more and buy the stuff I want and to buy for my alter to Father Satan and the Gods and Goddesses of Hell I work with. All this was done through just being dedicated no Matter what was going on. I didn’t have to work hard as much as any normie does that is not apart of the Joy of Satan. So my advice is just stay dedicated to your meditations so your morning and nighttime meditations clean your aura and chakra. Do everyday in the morning and at nighttime a aura of protection meditation too. Plus don’t hang around the normies once you cut them out of your life if they are of the Joy of Satan they are mostly of no help to you. I was doing all this since two full years straight, most of it under a freaking strict household of Xainity idiots being that foster family that believed so much of the Jews lies that they should murder Satanists due to their mental illness that they call a religion. So again don’t give up and stay dedicated no Matter what!! Everything is to be manifested in your life that is apart of your affirmations you have made and also the goals you are working on with your power meditations too.
 
The same reasoning that you do here should be applied to pure logic in other matters. If we have legs, and people walk..everybody seems do to so, why create a machinery where you can enter and by doing some pleasurable motions, you get to the destination? Why do people need to learn math and engineering and have labor force, to create these cars? What's the need to buy one when I can walk these km/miles on foot? Well, if you go on foot, you might travel to another country in a few months to years. But if you get a car, you'll get there in a day. The same applies to using your mind powers to get what you want. Love, knowdlege, money etc.
I like the metaphor of a car here. Thank you for the reply, I will digest it.

To just relax and give in to it.. even if it's just for 15 minutes. You really feel a difference! And then you begin to feel much better about yourself and more confident. And then when you start making a habit out of it? It gets easier and easier.
I like the way you put it because that is true for both good and bad habits. Though I'm not feeling much. So far, I think I can feel some energy when working with it to clean my aura. I do have to admit that focusing on Satan's sigil does relax me a little, as well, but I always attribute it to a placebo effect. I should be more open minded about it. Thank you for the reply.


Just try it! Yesterday I woke up with incredible energy, fueled by my meditation practice and connection with the Gods. It was one of the most memorable days of 2024 for me. I had inspiring dreams and a desire to evolve that I hadn't felt for a long time. It motivated me to create plans for my mental and spiritual growth
Glad it's going well for you.

Meditation should be a pleasurable experience. If you feel uncomfortable, maybe you're doing something wrong
I agree, but the fault is not in the execution. (I hope I can follow basic instructions, since I'm still in the 40 day program). It's an issue of mindset, it's hard for me to open up to this.

If you don't see the point in performing spells to improve yourself, look for more traditional methods. Do what works for you and makes you happy
What do you mean by "traditional methods"?


You think what those people who are normies don’t have problems(...)
Thank you for the answer. I did consider that normies just put on a façade to the world, I am not exactly sure how I reached the conclusion that they must always be genuine...
I think an SS has a huge potential compared to someone who isn't, but I don't know what to expect from this path, or if to expect anything at all. It is true I have been "hopping" from belief to belief, and NakedPluto is probably right that some programming stuck with me. I should probably do a freeing working or something similar.
 
Even I thought it was lame at first, and I thought so only out of pure outside influence.

The first few times I found it strange but I did it anyway, for a while I was embarrassed to talk about meditation.

But then all those ideas collapsed when I realised that meditation is one of the ways to power.
 
I know the title sounds bad, and it was by design to grab some attention, what I mean is that I feel like most normal people don't meditate, and that I do it because my life is a mess. I don't have an immediate course of action to solve all of the issues that plague me, but at the same it feels like trying to make up for things that I'm missing. If I do a working for intelligence, for example, I feel like all I'm doing is trying to compete with others who don't have to do this to be smart. Same applies to physical strength, or to improving charisma or anything really. I've never seen a normie consciously improve, and I feel like they don't need to. In the course of life of a normal person he or she wouldn't need to do these things. A normal person doesn't need to do spells for charisma, they just have decent personality, or love spells, they just find someone, or money spells, they just earn money one way or another. It just feels like I deviated from the path of a functional human and I need to do this to cure this dysfunction. I sit to meditate and before going into a trance I have to fight these thoughts, it's tiring. By the time I start meditating I already feel like shit. What is a better mindset to have regarding this? I know that if this was as useless as I make it out to be you guys wouldn't be doing it. What's the trick for being able to keep going?
Are you sure you're REALLY seeing those "normal people"? 😂 They fucking bump into each other
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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