Do the Gods decide?

[Lunarmystic]

Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?

 

[SatAnon]

Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?

No, becoming a God has nothing to do with other beings making you a god, it only depends on your effort and doing specific practices. These practices do come from the Gods and they give them to people they guide only when they are ready for them. Godhood is the result of awakening certain things inside your soul by using these practices, as everybody has the potential to become a God dormant inside their DNA.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?

If person will work hard for it based on his free will, is ready on a soul and able, and Gods while seeing into his/her future see that they will become Gods(which I believe is ordained from the very beginning of soul development) yes they allow and help.

But what kind of hardwork and free will you speak?
If you speak about freedom in our existence, in truth we have freedom to do what is needed to become Gods or we don’t, and if we don’t we stagnate and dissolve.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?

This is our freedom: to do what is needed most, or to do samsaric nonesense and be stuck until we die, and keep like that until our soul dies also. Or we choose path of living and work on our soul, so that it could flower and grow.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

Not in a direct, ordinate sense. Naturally, as you grow, you will align yourself more with the Gods, because that  is how Godhood works. The Gods have mastered their paths and align themselves with important roles and endeavors of Nature and Existence, which are heavily involved in growth.
A human being that is moving upwards will have the favor of the Gods and be more like them over time, because that is what we were designed to do.
It is a process of growth, yes, but in the sense that this is our purpose, it is also a process of self discovery.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

Similarly to how you "obey" the laws of gravity without deliberately choosing to do so.

 

[Flamma Bellum]

Are they the ones who get to decide ar the end of the day, if a practitioner gets to become a god or not, regardless of their efforts? Do they have control over humans working through godhood? Of yes. Wouldn't that contradict the notion of hard work and free will?

Because universe grows always, if one is not growing with it, he goes opposite, universe is life, opposite of it is death.

If tree grows to its fullest no matter what same as any plant, one has freedom do do the same or not.

Freedom is to live or die.

Life is hard work as you said, yes because for tree to grow he has to handle wind, storms, shadows, other plants, heat and cold, and still grow to its fullest.

Death, stagnation and ignorance is other way. That’s what about free will.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

This is internal in yourself. The Gods help and guide us. But you are the one who needs to do the work. Either you do the work or you don't.

 

[Lunarmystic]

and they give them to people they guide only when they are ready for them.

So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.

But what kind of hardwork and free will you speak?

But you are the one who needs to do the work. Either you do the work or you don't.

This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?

 

[ApolloAbove [SG]]

So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.

This does not answer my question. I do not question the effort and hard work required for this feat. What I mean is: can the gods even refuse someone becoming a god? can they decide to strip another being of their godhood status, or to block their path to godhead, simply due to whatever reason? For example, not believing in every single criteria presented here as "ethical"?

Ethics are essential to becoming a God and wielding power. If that bothers you, I am afraid you must spend a bit more time meditating.

Here are all the ethics, I am sure some of these are very terrible and hard to agree with. Such as, do not have sex with an animal or treat children well. Let me know which ones you disagree with.

https://templeofzeus.org/Satanic-Ethics.html

 

[Satans Son]

A God?
That's reaching high.
Perhaps get through the lives before you.
You are aware of Father's words, that's a good thing.
The karmic ladder is almost impossible to discern as to direction.
Just because you're in an upward trajectory doesn't ensure godhood.
There's work to be done.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

So they perhaps do have some form of control, by withholding information.

They don't deliberately withhold information that would magically instantly make you more advanced.
Yes, Lord Satan could probably let you see through a God's eyes for a few moments, but it would be like showing a baby the blueprints for a rocket ship. The baby can't suddenly just build it.

Text is just a bunch of scribbles until you understand the writing system and it suddenly has meaning.

The Gods' guidance is in perfect alignment with Satan's Ethics and Principles, which are in perfect alignment with Nature and existence itself. The Gods are beautifully integrated into the natural process of growth, they don't withhold any growth.

No, Gods can't strip away Godhood. The very first level of the Godhead comes with a fully materialized and advanced astral body which is effectively indestructible. Beings of Godhood probably can't kill each other. Not that they'd have a reason to.
And you seem to think of ethics as a law you obey deliberately. The Ethics of the Gods are deeply rooted within what the four Crowns represent and their specific Godhoods, which are perfectly aligned with Nature and the natural process of Godhood. They are a blueprint to how mastering the universe and advancement works, not laws in the traditional sense.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

How very extremely genius of you to assume I support such things. Goes to show how people think here.

Your "ethics" are different.

I will tell you what I disagree with actually. Funny how you go along with mentioning those things but completely miss out on the fact that this organization has some vaguely racist values. Is that not part of the equation or were you just being forgetful?

As JG AA explained, ethics are needed because this creates the basis for growth. How can I help increase your power if I think you could use it to commit a crime, for example? Ethics relate to energies like Libra and Capricorn, as they set the stage for social harmony and stability through which power is able to be held without problem.

I believe you think the Gods or someone is going to just block you over a disagreement, but that is not the case. Ethical behavior is something we advance towards and put effort into upholding. It is not just a way of life that is forced upon you, but something you come to understand as you advance. If it posed a major obstacle to you, it is likely your GD would encourage you to put effort here, just as they would help you overcome other obstacles on your path.

It would be silly for anyone to assume you are able to operate at 100% perfection in any area of life from the beginning. The way the Gods influence our path is beyond us and not just a binary "block or allow" system. It is not like you will be refused food because you didn't understand something.

Going back to your original question, your hard work on this path would naturally open yourself up to the ethics of higher states, by definition of advancement. If you are cleaning your heart chakra, for example, this allows you to operate on a higher state of balance and harmony. If you are cleaning or working on your Mars side, this gives an understanding of force, division, and the other aspect of justice, which also imparts ethical behavior of that area.

In other words, what sort of advancement are you doing, especially over years, which could not lead to ethical development? You seem to be worried about doing some sort of exercises over years and not being given anything for it, or even blocked for it, which is unlikely to happen.

If you have had problems with authorities in the past, it is possible you are subconsciously applying that frustration to the Gods' authority. However, they act in much more advanced ways, which is due to their ethical development, not in spite of it.

 

[AFODO]

Here is some evidence for you.

Nah bro this is deffinitely some far-off shobby distant theories LOL.

By the way this should be posted and saved.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Nah bro this is deffinitely some far-off shobby distant theories LOL.

By the way this should be posted and saved.

That post from Academic Scholar which is very helpful to copy and post often on replies. All of this is from the first link in her post.