Astrologers: About the hyleg; the essential dignity of a planet; etc.

[darkmonkey666]

Its not really that complicated. There are not a bunch of differnt planitary rulers for each degree. I can tell you there are power points or degrees a certain planet does really well on. Jupiter 5 cancer Sun 18 Aries Moon 3 Taurus Saturn 21 Libra for example Mars 28 Capricorn Mercury 15 Virgo traditional however I strongly doubt that cause Mercury can't be exalted in its home sign that makes no sense at all. It is exalted in Aquarius as stated on the JOS its one of the degrees in that sign dont know which one. Logically speaking Sun would do better at 28 Capricorn Jupiter at 21 Aries etc if you take planitary exaltation into consideration Mars Might do better at 21 Libra despite being in detriment. Most planets on 0 degrees of Cardinal signs provided they are not in fall or detriment in that sign (example Mars 0 Libra or Moon 0 Capricorn doesn't help it).

So long story short I know from energy of things the fall and exaltation degrees are for real. They are a great time to do any working related to the planet. In the exaltation degrees the energy of the planet feels greatly exaggerated and more powerful than even home sign good time to start a planitary square if your lucky enough to be able to for the planet.

However the thing about each degree being ruled by various planets and signs different than what is normal for astrology. I am pretty sure that's bullshit. It sounds like something some Virgo person with obsessive compulsive disorder would come up with when trying to find the absolute perfect time to do stuff or something. My personal intuition says there is nothing too it.

 

[darkmonkey666]

A planet can also be helped by being in its home or exalted house or harmed by being in its fall or detriment house or conjunct and angle.

 

[13th_Wolf]

To pick out the degrees in that detail is too obsessive unless you have way advanced awareness and intuition.

Otherwise the signs pretty much cover it. Don't stress yourself out over this.

Early level looking into stuff like that is the decans which I think is fairly easy to understand and makes sense, it can be helpful I've found. Decans are 10 degrees each and have a pattern to follow (also helps you understand the 'flow and ebb' of how these energies operate as a whole).

Dignities is the term used when a planet is benefited in a more varied way than just being in its ruling sign right? Figuring out stuff like that requires drawing the lines between the different astrological topics, also comparing them with the linked spiritual ones like chakra rulerships for example. You'd paint your own mental picture and see how a chart 'breathes' in your own way. The patterns flowing from one to the other.

If anyone knows a good book on this matters I would be so grateful if you could name it to me. There may be a general ruling planet for each zodiac sign but it only makes sense each degree may see a change by ruler aswell.

You mean in terms of house rulership?

I wrote a few posts on the astrology section about this idea of 'primary, secondary and tertiary' rulership. The signs being most important/primary, co-rulers and what you say as significating influences being secondary, and decans being tertiary and the weaker but more nitpicking and pinpointing study. I don't know if it's right or what but it's an interesting thing to think about, the deepening of astrology beyond the signs themselves and into it's astronomical level and the more intricate physics. I was never really one for any of that growing up with iPhones lol, but I suppose I've got a good headstart with it by being here!

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28377&p=127687&hilit=Tertiary#p127687
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40848&p=166891&hilit=Tertiary#p166891
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37907&p=150669&hilit=Tertiary#p150669
Here are the posts, sorry about the highlight there.

I open up on this extra rulership idea in these along with some other stuff. There's no mention of this topic (decans, nakshatras etc.) on Azazels Astrology I believe because its complex and also detracting for the average Satanist, other people have probably suggested this particular theory before me anyhow. Hope you can figure out what you're after.

Also slyscorpion's reply is spot on. It's not like programming or something, astrology is an intuitive art. I've learnt you can only get so far if you take the materialist viewpoints, although now and then it is important to do so for certain questions.

 

[darkmonkey666]

To pick out the degrees in that detail is too obsessive unless you have way advanced awareness and intuition.

Otherwise the signs pretty much cover it. Don't stress yourself out over this.

Early level looking into stuff like that is the decans which I think is fairly easy to understand and makes sense, it can be helpful I've found. Decans are 10 degrees each and have a pattern to follow (also helps you understand the 'flow and ebb' of how these energies operate as a whole).

Dignities is the term used when a planet is benefited in a more varied way than just being in its ruling sign right? Figuring out stuff like that requires drawing the lines between the different astrological topics, also comparing them with the linked spiritual ones like chakra rulerships for example. You'd paint your own mental picture and see how a chart 'breathes' in your own way. The patterns flowing from one to the other.

If anyone knows a good book on this matters I would be so grateful if you could name it to me. There may be a general ruling planet for each zodiac sign but it only makes sense each degree may see a change by ruler aswell.

You mean in terms of house rulership?

I wrote a few posts on the astrology section about this idea of 'primary, secondary and tertiary' rulership. The signs being most important/primary, co-rulers and what you say as significating influences being secondary, and decans being tertiary and the weaker but more nitpicking and pinpointing study. I don't know if it's right or what but it's an interesting thing to think about, the deepening of astrology beyond the signs themselves and into it's astronomical level and the more intricate physics. I was never really one for any of that growing up with iPhones lol, but I suppose I've got a good headstart with it by being here!

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28377&p=127687&hilit=Tertiary#p127687
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40848&p=166891&hilit=Tertiary#p166891
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=37907&p=150669&hilit=Tertiary#p150669
Here are the posts, sorry about the highlight there.

I open up on this extra rulership idea in these along with some other stuff. There's no mention of this topic (decans, nakshatras etc.) on Azazels Astrology I believe because its complex and also detracting for the average Satanist, other people have probably suggested this particular theory before me anyhow. Hope you can figure out what you're after.

Also slyscorpion's reply is spot on. It's not like programming or something, astrology is an intuitive art. I've learnt you can only get so far if you take the materialist viewpoints, although now and then it is important to do so for certain questions.

If you intuitively understand how this works with flows of energy between stuff its way eaiser even in more material questions dealing with astrology.

Some people think you can ask a question and draw up a chart right after and have it answered. Maybe true if you do it only every once in awhile but if you do it way too often in a single day you will have an idea of where things are that day and where they will be when asking the question. This might invalidate it if you choose to ask it when something more favorable to the question you want to ask and have too much thought on this. Though this may be a bullshit practice altogether too I am not sure.

I am not for certain everything some astrologers say these days is real but I am not to the level of people like Maxine or Cobra or anything so I may be wrong in some things. What I am certain of though is a lot of modern astrology they try to whitewash more negative things to say something else often adding love in there and put new age type mumbo jumbo in it. Also it appears there are some really obsessive compulsive like ideas too some people have like we both said. So a lot of what is in modern astrology in mainstream sources may not be true at all. We can thank the Jews for this.