Anyone here can see and hear the gods? (Complete communication with them) . And what it did take to achieve it?
Anyone here can see the gods? And what it did take?
RockSeed131 min to readWhat works best… as when one is blessed with these experiences… keep them between yourself and the Gods. Secrecy. Silence is golden
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What works best… as when one is blessed with these experiences… keep them between yourself and the Gods. Secrecy. Silence is golden
It can vary depending on your baseline level of advancement, but the easiest way is to establish a connection via their sigil and simply tune-in to them.
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It can vary depending on your baseline level of advancement, but the easiest way is to establish a connection via their sigil and simply tune-in to them.
@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.
This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
Everything has been called into question.
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@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.
This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
Everything has been called into question.
Anyone here can see and hear the gods? (Complete communication with them) . And what it did take to achieve it?
Few words: practice, focusing on my astral senses and meditation.
You also have to actively reach out for Them. Strike up a conversation with you Guardian or someone you'd like to know, do a Ritual...
The Gods are also all around us: in the sky, in the animals, in the looks of other people, kid's laughter, in the sunset, in the leaves...
There's really one obstacle that might block you: yourself!
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Anyone here can see and hear the gods? (Complete communication with them) . And what it did take to achieve it?
Few words: practice, focusing on my astral senses and meditation.
You also have to actively reach out for Them. Strike up a conversation with you Guardian or someone you'd like to know, do a Ritual...
The Gods are also all around us: in the sky, in the animals, in the looks of other people, kid's laughter, in the sunset, in the leaves...
There's really one obstacle that might block you: yourself!
@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
The "Goetian style" was not a wrong or disrespectful way of addressing and describing the Gods, it was just a lesser, very limited and inferior way, compared to the knowledge that there is now on ToZ and will come still. Same with the name Satan. The Gods are not childish and don't lower to human behaviors of "not liking this and that name". Satan is not a disrespectful name but also is not the most fitting and most comprehensive name either. Additionally, the name Satan has a very negative stigma due to how the abrahamic religions used it to turn Satan / Zeus into the most evil entity in existence.
As for communicating with the Gods I do have to wonder, if someone said they can communicate with the Gods, based on your message you are very highly likely not to believe them (or even worse), however you would not take the time and dedication to meditate to be able to communicate with the Gods yourself, because you don't believe in these powers until you feel convinced by someone else who communicates with the Gods? Is this reasoning correct? How are you getting out of this cycle?
the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.
Racism means unjustified hate for other races. ToZ is a religion for all of humanity and there are people from all over the world here. How and when was racism ever promoted here?
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@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
The "Goetian style" was not a wrong or disrespectful way of addressing and describing the Gods, it was just a lesser, very limited and inferior way, compared to the knowledge that there is now on ToZ and will come still. Same with the name Satan. The Gods are not childish and don't lower to human behaviors of "not liking this and that name". Satan is not a disrespectful name but also is not the most fitting and most comprehensive name either. Additionally, the name Satan has a very negative stigma due to how the abrahamic religions used it to turn Satan / Zeus into the most evil entity in existence.
As for communicating with the Gods I do have to wonder, if someone said they can communicate with the Gods, based on your message you are very highly likely not to believe them (or even worse), however you would not take the time and dedication to meditate to be able to communicate with the Gods yourself, because you don't believe in these powers until you feel convinced by someone else who communicates with the Gods? Is this reasoning correct? How are you getting out of this cycle?
the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.
Racism means unjustified hate for other races. ToZ is a religion for all of humanity and there are people from all over the world here. How and when was racism ever promoted here?
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Lol, people complaining about us going from what was basically the equivalent of stick figure drawings of the Gods to now full-blown renaissance painting level expression of their true essence/core.
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I don't think the old information is being contradicted, but rather expanded upon.
Restricting the Gods to being just "white" is an oversimplification of the full scope of their nature, which is what's being made known.
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Lol, people complaining about us going from what was basically the equivalent of stick figure drawings of the Gods to now full-blown renaissance painting level expression of their true essence/core.
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I don't think the old information is being contradicted, but rather expanded upon.
Restricting the Gods to being just "white" is an oversimplification of the full scope of their nature, which is what's being made known.
Perhaps I was misunderstood. It's not really about the race topic but more so about interpreting messages from the Gods.
When Lady Pythia said that Hera/Lilith told her repeatedly that only White people can achieve the Magnum Opus essentially, what was that all about? Did Lady Pythia repeatedly misunderstand what Hera was trying to tell her? Did Hera ever actually say this?
It's not about whether only White people can only achieve the Magnum Opus or not, TOZ clearly states now that this is not the case. I only used the race topic as an example. What I'm asking about is how does one make sure they don't misunderstand what the Gods are trying to tell them?
How hard is it to believe, that essentially, all these statements, unsupported by all the Ancient Cultures on the topic?
The Gods always say the truth. This passes through the psychological filter of every individual; they can in certain cases pervert it. The God can say "you need to be White to make the Magnum Opus" or whatever - White can mean in this case the level the soul must reach in purity.
Then this is transferred to the person in another way through the filter. "Only white people can do the Magnum Opus" Hera probably means.
The Gods told me once I need to become a triangle and become Geometry. Does that mean literally I must stay on my chair as a triangle or that I should become a geometrical shape? They mean soul work. This is how my mind when it was less mature ten years ago listened to the information.
If you read my latest post you will understand why this occurs. Start worshiping Political ideologies and things like this, try to force them on the Gods and the only thing you reassure is that you will create more dangerous filters for yourself and not see what they mean, and these can very seriously malform what you receive.
The purity of the blood and other gross materialization of people that they formed in politics, literally have to do with how much your lifeforce is purified in order to make this happen. Blood = lifeforce. Purity = cleanse the deeper vital force. Now if you want to make a political thing out of this message, your mind will jeopardize what you hear.
As these affect your whole perception of your whole life, they will also affect even astral input.
As for the statements that the Magnum Opus should be in a public website for Timmy to read this in high school and go flex some pyrokinesis to his friends, I leave these topics without even a comment.
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Perhaps I was misunderstood. It's not really about the race topic but more so about interpreting messages from the Gods.
When Lady Pythia said that Hera/Lilith told her repeatedly that only White people can achieve the Magnum Opus essentially, what was that all about? Did Lady Pythia repeatedly misunderstand what Hera was trying to tell her? Did Hera ever actually say this?
It's not about whether only White people can only achieve the Magnum Opus or not, TOZ clearly states now that this is not the case. I only used the race topic as an example. What I'm asking about is how does one make sure they don't misunderstand what the Gods are trying to tell them?
How hard is it to believe, that essentially, all these statements, unsupported by all the Ancient Cultures on the topic?
The Gods always say the truth. This passes through the psychological filter of every individual; they can in certain cases pervert it. The God can say "you need to be White to make the Magnum Opus" or whatever - White can mean in this case the level the soul must reach in purity.
Then this is transferred to the person in another way through the filter. "Only white people can do the Magnum Opus" Hera probably means.
The Gods told me once I need to become a triangle and become Geometry. Does that mean literally I must stay on my chair as a triangle or that I should become a geometrical shape? They mean soul work. This is how my mind when it was less mature ten years ago listened to the information.
If you read my latest post you will understand why this occurs. Start worshiping Political ideologies and things like this, try to force them on the Gods and the only thing you reassure is that you will create more dangerous filters for yourself and not see what they mean, and these can very seriously malform what you receive.
The purity of the blood and other gross materialization of people that they formed in politics, literally have to do with how much your lifeforce is purified in order to make this happen. Blood = lifeforce. Purity = cleanse the deeper vital force. Now if you want to make a political thing out of this message, your mind will jeopardize what you hear.
As these affect your whole perception of your whole life, they will also affect even astral input.
As for the statements that the Magnum Opus should be in a public website for Timmy to read this in high school and go flex some pyrokinesis to his friends, I leave these topics without even a comment.
Perhaps I was misunderstood. It's not really about the race topic but more so about interpreting messages from the Gods.
When Lady Pythia said that Hera/Lilith told her repeatedly that only White people can achieve the Magnum Opus essentially, what was that all about? Did Lady Pythia repeatedly misunderstand what Hera was trying to tell her? Did Hera ever actually say this?
It's not about whether only White people can only achieve the Magnum Opus or not, TOZ clearly states now that this is not the case. I only used the race topic as an example. What I'm asking about is how does one make sure they don't misunderstand what the Gods are trying to tell them?
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Perhaps I was misunderstood. It's not really about the race topic but more so about interpreting messages from the Gods.
When Lady Pythia said that Hera/Lilith told her repeatedly that only White people can achieve the Magnum Opus essentially, what was that all about? Did Lady Pythia repeatedly misunderstand what Hera was trying to tell her? Did Hera ever actually say this?
It's not about whether only White people can only achieve the Magnum Opus or not, TOZ clearly states now that this is not the case. I only used the race topic as an example. What I'm asking about is how does one make sure they don't misunderstand what the Gods are trying to tell them?
@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
ill say it, I can and do. never once has the topic of demeaning, degrading and denigrating any part of humanity due to race been of any significant importance. although these topics were often promoted on the previous brand of ToZ, the reasoning behind these things being promoted or shared is beyond me, but that doesn't mean there was a valid reasoning behind it. as HPVM said in a response here, "The Gods always say the truth. This passes through the psychological filter of every individual; they can in certain cases pervert it." you are attributing the actions and beliefs of one human to be the actions and beliefs of the collective. I never felt compelled to believe or recite anything related to Satan, or to think one race has a greater possibility to complete the magnum opus and eventually to become a god amongst men.
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@RockSeed13
This is an important question that calls everything into question. Either there are NO members at all, including the clergy—because how can one claim that they were actually conversing with the Gods to describe them as Pythia and other priests of the time did (with wings, etc., in a Goetian style, after all?!) And if He didn’t want to be called Satan, why did He wait so long to say so? While other people, particularly Caroline Bright, have always said that He refused to be called Satan—the same goes for racism, whereas here it was promoted.This just proves that, unfortunately, it was all a big internal delusion among people. Sad, sad, sad.
We had to take yesterday’s words at face value. We have to take today’s words at face value. And tomorrow, what new doctrines will we be required to believe?
ill say it, I can and do. never once has the topic of demeaning, degrading and denigrating any part of humanity due to race been of any significant importance. although these topics were often promoted on the previous brand of ToZ, the reasoning behind these things being promoted or shared is beyond me, but that doesn't mean there was a valid reasoning behind it. as HPVM said in a response here, "The Gods always say the truth. This passes through the psychological filter of every individual; they can in certain cases pervert it." you are attributing the actions and beliefs of one human to be the actions and beliefs of the collective. I never felt compelled to believe or recite anything related to Satan, or to think one race has a greater possibility to complete the magnum opus and eventually to become a god amongst men.
@The Alchemist7 [SG]
Don’t believe I am a new member or a new Dedicated. New acount, yes. Only.Drop please that sarcastic tone—the kind that looks down on others, just as the Clergy and some of its former members, some of its oldest members, look down on others.
@all
Given the relativism of recent times, a little humility would be in order, would be welcome. For the justice of Maat. For the Truth.
"I have contributed nothing this entire time but let me tell you why you need to apologies"
No, fuck off.
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@The Alchemist7 [SG]
Don’t believe I am a new member or a new Dedicated. New acount, yes. Only.Drop please that sarcastic tone—the kind that looks down on others, just as the Clergy and some of its former members, some of its oldest members, look down on others.
@all
Given the relativism of recent times, a little humility would be in order, would be welcome. For the justice of Maat. For the Truth.
"I have contributed nothing this entire time but let me tell you why you need to apologies"
No, fuck off.
the very fact these ideals where posited on the JoS could just be to serve this very purpose, to stir discourse and ultimately a greater understanding of what unity and striving for evolution would entail. such as overcoming these limited ideologies, which seems to be of great importance, as ive seen a lot of support for the ideas of one race being better than the others, we need to over come these limited and small scoped ideas and aim so much higher. for the sake of humanity.
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the very fact these ideals where posited on the JoS could just be to serve this very purpose, to stir discourse and ultimately a greater understanding of what unity and striving for evolution would entail. such as overcoming these limited ideologies, which seems to be of great importance, as ive seen a lot of support for the ideas of one race being better than the others, we need to over come these limited and small scoped ideas and aim so much higher. for the sake of humanity.
This is the targeted message.
Anyone here can see and hear the gods? (Complete communication with them) . And what it did take to achieve it?
If you mean like a real person sat down next to you started talking face to face, then I personally haven't. I have had them visit me in dreams and convey information to me mentally.
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Anyone here can see and hear the gods? (Complete communication with them) . And what it did take to achieve it?
If you mean like a real person sat down next to you started talking face to face, then I personally haven't. I have had them visit me in dreams and convey information to me mentally.
High Priestess Pythia might have interpreted what she was told that way, I am definitely not denying that she said that but as you can see there are people from all over the world here, everyone has potential to meditate and advance (how far though, is up to everyone and their capability). Also these things about the blue eyes and the extrapolation of human racial aspects to the Gods, is very irrelevant, very inaccurate, very confusing and very useless for our future. The Gods are extremely complex beings who do have physical bodies, but exactly as with humans, their physical body is just one rather small component of their "being". Their consciousness is far more vast, powerful and "penetrating" in the universe. The physical solid body is a carrier and a temple for a consciousness to manifest into. Keep in mind the same goes for humans but on a far smaller scale of power and wisdom.
I don't address anybody based on how many years they have been here, this is something I could never know and it does not matter a lot in the end. I am addressing others based on what they write, what ideas they have etc. But for a long story short, the best way to receive understanding is by meditating and opening yourself up to higher dimensions and to the Gods directly.
Just to clear up any possible lingering misunderstanding:
My previous reply wasn’t directed at you, but only at the specific part I quoted. It had nothing to do with you, and I realize I should have clarified that earlier, since i replied to the reply replying to you..
For what it’s worth, I actually hold you in high regard, you’re one of the members I respect the most.
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High Priestess Pythia might have interpreted what she was told that way, I am definitely not denying that she said that but as you can see there are people from all over the world here, everyone has potential to meditate and advance (how far though, is up to everyone and their capability). Also these things about the blue eyes and the extrapolation of human racial aspects to the Gods, is very irrelevant, very inaccurate, very confusing and very useless for our future. The Gods are extremely complex beings who do have physical bodies, but exactly as with humans, their physical body is just one rather small component of their "being". Their consciousness is far more vast, powerful and "penetrating" in the universe. The physical solid body is a carrier and a temple for a consciousness to manifest into. Keep in mind the same goes for humans but on a far smaller scale of power and wisdom.
I don't address anybody based on how many years they have been here, this is something I could never know and it does not matter a lot in the end. I am addressing others based on what they write, what ideas they have etc. But for a long story short, the best way to receive understanding is by meditating and opening yourself up to higher dimensions and to the Gods directly.
Just to clear up any possible lingering misunderstanding:
My previous reply wasn’t directed at you, but only at the specific part I quoted. It had nothing to do with you, and I realize I should have clarified that earlier, since i replied to the reply replying to you..
For what it’s worth, I actually hold you in high regard, you’re one of the members I respect the most.
Just to clear up any possible lingering misunderstanding:
My previous reply wasn’t directed at you, but only at the specific part I quoted. It had nothing to do with you, and I realize I should have clarified that earlier, since i replied to the reply replying to you..
For what it’s worth, I actually hold you in high regard, you’re one of the members I respect the most.
I don't know what you are on about Goldenwings, I have never replied to your 20th account so far.
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Just to clear up any possible lingering misunderstanding:
My previous reply wasn’t directed at you, but only at the specific part I quoted. It had nothing to do with you, and I realize I should have clarified that earlier, since i replied to the reply replying to you..
For what it’s worth, I actually hold you in high regard, you’re one of the members I respect the most.
I don't know what you are on about Goldenwings, I have never replied to your 20th account so far.
I don't know what you are on about Goldenwings, I have never replied to your 20th account so far.
Dear SG,
That is exactly what i meant, we never interacted, so my previous reply does not concern you, i am talking about the reply on this thread.
As for my respect it stays intact, this is too my opinion which concerns only me. As for your replies, i understand that you are busy and feel free to always ignore, as long as The Highest Ranking Gods in the entire universe reply to me, it does not bother me if humans don’t. And this only teaches me to respect even more the ones who do reply. Have a wonderful day.
May the Gods bestow you with wisdom, and make you succeed in your endeavors.
Quick note: a grey appeared to me in meditation and i ignored, he is confirmed enemy and i still just ignored, so there is nothing in the future which will lead me into drama with a gentile who is a brother whether he likes it or not, besides if i fell in the trap, i am still human.
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I don't know what you are on about Goldenwings, I have never replied to your 20th account so far.
Dear SG,
That is exactly what i meant, we never interacted, so my previous reply does not concern you, i am talking about the reply on this thread.
As for my respect it stays intact, this is too my opinion which concerns only me. As for your replies, i understand that you are busy and feel free to always ignore, as long as The Highest Ranking Gods in the entire universe reply to me, it does not bother me if humans don’t. And this only teaches me to respect even more the ones who do reply. Have a wonderful day.
May the Gods bestow you with wisdom, and make you succeed in your endeavors.
Quick note: a grey appeared to me in meditation and i ignored, he is confirmed enemy and i still just ignored, so there is nothing in the future which will lead me into drama with a gentile who is a brother whether he likes it or not, besides if i fell in the trap, i am still human.