ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
2012
barry11 min to read
2012 is the year humanity is going to wake up from all xian lies.that mean xian die humans get great revenge .
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2012 is the year humanity is going to wake up from all xian lies.that mean xian die humans get great revenge .
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
0
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
2012.... Father satan told Pythia it was going to be like the y2k. does anyone remember that?'
Hail Satan!
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@... wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@...
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
0
2012.... Father satan told Pythia it was going to be like the y2k. does anyone remember that?'
Hail Satan!
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@... wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@...
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
If Sarah Palin is ellected president, I'm going to seriously look into Canadian citizenship.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@... wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@...
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
0
If Sarah Palin is ellected president, I'm going to seriously look into Canadian citizenship.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@... wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@...
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
actually, no. the new age will come in 2150. ever age lasts 2150 years. the current age began 2009 years ago. which means the age will
shift in 141 years from now.
Hail Satan!
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------Original Message------
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@...
To:
Date: Sun, Sep 27, 2009 03:18 AM
Subject: Re: 2012
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
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actually, no. the new age will come in 2150. ever age lasts 2150 years. the current age began 2009 years ago. which means the age will
shift in 141 years from now.
Hail Satan!
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------Original Message------
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@...
To:
Date: Sun, Sep 27, 2009 03:18 AM
Subject: Re: 2012
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
Honestli I didn't believe in y2k and I don't believe in this but yes the stupidity will be about the same. The deal is supposedly that the mayan calendar ends on dec 21, 2012 and after that well who knows wats going to happen ... uh december 22 then SINOMAS in mi opinion. But itz stupid. People like mel gibson montel williams and the smashing pumpkins believe in the 2012 junk. Check it out for yourself and get some water purication tablets as well ... too funny.
http://www.december212012.com/
HAIL SATAN
TRACE WESTIN
--- In , "Reliant" <darkfury211@... wrote:
2012.... Father satan told Pythia it was going to be like the y2k. does anyone remember that?'
Hail Satan!
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@ wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@ wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
0
Honestli I didn't believe in y2k and I don't believe in this but yes the stupidity will be about the same. The deal is supposedly that the mayan calendar ends on dec 21, 2012 and after that well who knows wats going to happen ... uh december 22 then SINOMAS in mi opinion. But itz stupid. People like mel gibson montel williams and the smashing pumpkins believe in the 2012 junk. Check it out for yourself and get some water purication tablets as well ... too funny.
http://www.december212012.com/
HAIL SATAN
TRACE WESTIN
--- In , "Reliant" <darkfury211@... wrote:
2012.... Father satan told Pythia it was going to be like the y2k. does anyone remember that?'
Hail Satan!
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@ wrote:
Nothing is going to happen in 2012, except that the US of A will probably throw Obama out and someone else will come along! Perhaps even Sarah (Gun Sarah lol)!
Stop fretting about 2012, it's just another year and probably a very good one for Champagne and Red Wine!
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, barry <barry_kidwell@ wrote:
From: barry <barry_kidwell@
Subject: 2012
To:
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:12 PM
ok so ive heard alot about 2012 but dose anyone reay know whats going to happen if anyhting... or dose some have a theroy or somthing? thanks for reading and plese reply
Hail father Satan!
I'm not naive enough to believe that this will actually put the brakes on 2012 posts, but all that year represents is the end of an "age" in Maya/Aztec cosmology. (If it also marks the time when judeo-xtianity finally gets its well-deserved comeuppance, so much the better! It's about time. If it was up to me I would have gotten out the fly swatter ages ago!--LOL)
Anyway, the Mesoamericans divided time into certain "ages" or as they called them, "suns". 2012 marks the end of the "Fifth Sun". One can only speculate, but it's possible that the calendar would have been revised to include the coming "Sixth Sun", if it did not already. Remember that although it is the most accurate calendar system devised, no one has yet learned to thoroughly and completely read one of these things, claims to the contrary not withstanding, in the light of Mayan cosmology.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Relax, let'em fret, if they're afraid, they're not real Satanists but we, will drink Chamapgn and red wine just for the fun of it lol!
OK, He's right, let's move on and Forget 2012 apart from the fact that it's an election year and that's true for a number of countries but America will have a chance to get things together again by voting for the right person this time;
THEN WE'LL DRINK CHAMPAGN AND RED WINE !
L!
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, DerekD <derekthehellviking@... wrote:
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@...
Subject: Re: 2012
To:
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:18 AM
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
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I'm not naive enough to believe that this will actually put the brakes on 2012 posts, but all that year represents is the end of an "age" in Maya/Aztec cosmology. (If it also marks the time when judeo-xtianity finally gets its well-deserved comeuppance, so much the better! It's about time. If it was up to me I would have gotten out the fly swatter ages ago!--LOL)
Anyway, the Mesoamericans divided time into certain "ages" or as they called them, "suns". 2012 marks the end of the "Fifth Sun". One can only speculate, but it's possible that the calendar would have been revised to include the coming "Sixth Sun", if it did not already. Remember that although it is the most accurate calendar system devised, no one has yet learned to thoroughly and completely read one of these things, claims to the contrary not withstanding, in the light of Mayan cosmology.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@... wrote:
Relax, let'em fret, if they're afraid, they're not real Satanists but we, will drink Chamapgn and red wine just for the fun of it lol!
OK, He's right, let's move on and Forget 2012 apart from the fact that it's an election year and that's true for a number of countries but America will have a chance to get things together again by voting for the right person this time;
THEN WE'LL DRINK CHAMPAGN AND RED WINE !
L!
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, DerekD <derekthehellviking@... wrote:
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@...
Subject: Re: 2012
To:
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:18 AM
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
Once again, I hit "send" too soon ...
Don't forget these people's culture was forcibly destroyed by xtian invaders. Many parts are "missing". Diego de Landa, for instance, purposely set about destroying Mayan culture and publicly burned untold thousands of codices of their history, cosmology, etc. and that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Had they not been destroyed by the xtian fervor of the conquistadors (who brought the Inquisition with them to the so-called "New World"--gold and god), who knows what might have happened ... They were great civilizations, but they fell to invading conquerors who might as well have been from a different planet, so alien were the cultures from each other. The world of the Aztecs effectively ended in 1521; the Mayan a few years later. Only comparatively lately have these peoples been able to reclaim a small portion of their once grand culture (although there were always a precious few who did so, right from the outset, on pain of horrible death.)
What I'm saying is that had the conquest not taken place, this 2012 fuss may not have occurred either. But when learning stops (as it does when xtianity flourishes anywhere) decay is inevitable and what remains of the vanquished culture and its people is often given meanings other than what would have been the case had the invasions not happened. Again, about such things we can only speculate but it does provide some food for thought.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I'm not naive enough to believe that this will actually put the brakes on 2012 posts, but all that year represents is the end of an "age" in Maya/Aztec cosmology. (If it also marks the time when judeo-xtianity finally gets its well-deserved comeuppance, so much the better! It's about time. If it was up to me I would have gotten out the fly swatter ages ago!--LOL)
Anyway, the Mesoamericans divided time into certain "ages" or as they called them, "suns". 2012 marks the end of the "Fifth Sun". One can only speculate, but it's possible that the calendar would have been revised to include the coming "Sixth Sun", if it did not already. Remember that although it is the most accurate calendar system devised, no one has yet learned to thoroughly and completely read one of these things, claims to the contrary not withstanding, in the light of Mayan cosmology.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@ wrote:
Relax, let'em fret, if they're afraid, they're not real Satanists but we, will drink Chamapgn and red wine just for the fun of it lol!
OK, He's right, let's move on and Forget 2012 apart from the fact that it's an election year and that's true for a number of countries but America will have a chance to get things together again by voting for the right person this time;
THEN WE'LL DRINK CHAMPAGN AND RED WINE !
L!
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, DerekD <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@
Subject: Re: 2012
To:
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:18 AM
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
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Once again, I hit "send" too soon ...
Don't forget these people's culture was forcibly destroyed by xtian invaders. Many parts are "missing". Diego de Landa, for instance, purposely set about destroying Mayan culture and publicly burned untold thousands of codices of their history, cosmology, etc. and that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Had they not been destroyed by the xtian fervor of the conquistadors (who brought the Inquisition with them to the so-called "New World"--gold and god), who knows what might have happened ... They were great civilizations, but they fell to invading conquerors who might as well have been from a different planet, so alien were the cultures from each other. The world of the Aztecs effectively ended in 1521; the Mayan a few years later. Only comparatively lately have these peoples been able to reclaim a small portion of their once grand culture (although there were always a precious few who did so, right from the outset, on pain of horrible death.)
What I'm saying is that had the conquest not taken place, this 2012 fuss may not have occurred either. But when learning stops (as it does when xtianity flourishes anywhere) decay is inevitable and what remains of the vanquished culture and its people is often given meanings other than what would have been the case had the invasions not happened. Again, about such things we can only speculate but it does provide some food for thought.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
I'm not naive enough to believe that this will actually put the brakes on 2012 posts, but all that year represents is the end of an "age" in Maya/Aztec cosmology. (If it also marks the time when judeo-xtianity finally gets its well-deserved comeuppance, so much the better! It's about time. If it was up to me I would have gotten out the fly swatter ages ago!--LOL)
Anyway, the Mesoamericans divided time into certain "ages" or as they called them, "suns". 2012 marks the end of the "Fifth Sun". One can only speculate, but it's possible that the calendar would have been revised to include the coming "Sixth Sun", if it did not already. Remember that although it is the most accurate calendar system devised, no one has yet learned to thoroughly and completely read one of these things, claims to the contrary not withstanding, in the light of Mayan cosmology.
--- In , Loki Asgard <loki_asgard_666@ wrote:
Relax, let'em fret, if they're afraid, they're not real Satanists but we, will drink Chamapgn and red wine just for the fun of it lol!
OK, He's right, let's move on and Forget 2012 apart from the fact that it's an election year and that's true for a number of countries but America will have a chance to get things together again by voting for the right person this time;
THEN WE'LL DRINK CHAMPAGN AND RED WINE !
L!
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, DerekD <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
From: DerekD <derekthehellviking@
Subject: Re: 2012
To:
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:18 AM
For the 1000th time, the 2012 apocalypse predictions are a fraud! You have no idea how many times that very same question has been asked! The only thing that will really happen for sure is that the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Satan, will come. I can hardly wait until that happens! It imagine it will be quite grand!
Are we going to keep being asked this question till 2012 passes!? It's one thing for the same question to be asked a few times but this is kind of ridiculous! By the way, I'm not trying to give you a hard time buddy. It's just that I'm sure this question is driving people a little nuts.
I checked out what you said and it looks like you're right. Pythia said somewhere on the Joy of Satan site that the Age of Aquarius will come in the middle of the next century. Thanks for correcting me! I was apparently mistaken.
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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I checked out what you said and it looks like you're right. Pythia said somewhere on the Joy of Satan site that the Age of Aquarius will come in the middle of the next century. Thanks for correcting me! I was apparently mistaken.
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@... wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@... wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In , "mageson6666" < wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In , "mageson6666" < wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
Yeah it is awesome,I have been meditating for some time now aprox 4years.I also started the magnum Opus meditations not so long ago.
I have noticed that my immune system is alot stronger I rarely get sick.Actually I didnt get the flu/cold for about almost 2years.
Even when people around me get sick and need to stay in bed,I don't catch the disease myself.
HAIL SATAN !
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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Yeah it is awesome,I have been meditating for some time now aprox 4years.I also started the magnum Opus meditations not so long ago.
I have noticed that my immune system is alot stronger I rarely get sick.Actually I didnt get the flu/cold for about almost 2years.
Even when people around me get sick and need to stay in bed,I don't catch the disease myself.
HAIL SATAN !
--- In , "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@... wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In , "DerekD" <derekthehellviking@ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
It is very easy our words form associations in our mind they generate images and emotions, keep mentioning techinques that require simply being able to relax yourself first and being mind in matter, as hard and difficult to people and it generates the feeling of tension and hesitation towards doing them which causes just that when they do them to happen, and is likey to cause more frustation. Which causes them to connect stress to doing power meditation. Making them hard and difficult. When they are quite easy just relax and be present within yourself.
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:45:08 PM
Subject: Re: Physical & Spiritual Perfection (Was: 2012)
Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "mageson6666" < ... wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "DerekD" <derekthehellviking @ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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It is very easy our words form associations in our mind they generate images and emotions, keep mentioning techinques that require simply being able to relax yourself first and being mind in matter, as hard and difficult to people and it generates the feeling of tension and hesitation towards doing them which causes just that when they do them to happen, and is likey to cause more frustation. Which causes them to connect stress to doing power meditation. Making them hard and difficult. When they are quite easy just relax and be present within yourself.
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:45:08 PM
Subject: Re: Physical & Spiritual Perfection (Was: 2012)
Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "mageson6666" < ... wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "DerekD" <derekthehellviking @ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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You definitely have a point.
Words mean different things to different people. I personally don't like being told something will be "easy" when it will, in reality, require a lot of effort and discipline. I'm big on 'tell it like it is.'
For example, I'm an equestrian (dressage and doma vaquera), which requires a great deal of effort and discipline. My first instructor showed his worthlessness when he told me in so many words, "It's easy. I can teach you in three days." It was never 'easy' and certainly took a lot longer than three days. (I'm reasonably good but I'll never be going to the Olympics. LOL). Anything to do with horses is a field where the concept of lifetime learning totally applies.
Not to suggest that the Magnum Opus is akin to riding a horse, except for the discipline and effort required, perhaps, and that spirituality also requires 'lifelong learning' but I (again personally) have found that when I have been misled about either the difficulty or the ease of a certain thing, I have been disappointed and felt that somewhere along the line I did not acquire the accurate information I needed (whether through my own oversight/omission or someone else's) and therefore something was missing.
I certainly don't intend to put people off from commencing or continuing with the Magnum Opus; just to not give anyone the impression that it will be a walk in the park or a visit to a spiritual Disneyland. Satanism -- all of it -- requires work and concentrated effort.
--- In , Forums Contributor < wrote:
It is very easy our words form associations in our mind they generate images and emotions, keep mentioning techinques that require simply being able to relax yourself first and being mind in matter, as hard and difficult to people and it generates the feeling of tension and hesitation towards doing them which causes just that when they do them to happen, and is likey to cause more frustation. Which causes them to connect stress to doing power meditation. Making them hard and difficult. When they are quite easy just relax and be present within yourself.
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From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:45:08 PM
Subject: Re: Physical & Spiritual Perfection (Was: 2012)
Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "mageson6666" < ... wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "DerekD" <derekthehellviking @ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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You definitely have a point.
Words mean different things to different people. I personally don't like being told something will be "easy" when it will, in reality, require a lot of effort and discipline. I'm big on 'tell it like it is.'
For example, I'm an equestrian (dressage and doma vaquera), which requires a great deal of effort and discipline. My first instructor showed his worthlessness when he told me in so many words, "It's easy. I can teach you in three days." It was never 'easy' and certainly took a lot longer than three days. (I'm reasonably good but I'll never be going to the Olympics. LOL). Anything to do with horses is a field where the concept of lifetime learning totally applies.
Not to suggest that the Magnum Opus is akin to riding a horse, except for the discipline and effort required, perhaps, and that spirituality also requires 'lifelong learning' but I (again personally) have found that when I have been misled about either the difficulty or the ease of a certain thing, I have been disappointed and felt that somewhere along the line I did not acquire the accurate information I needed (whether through my own oversight/omission or someone else's) and therefore something was missing.
I certainly don't intend to put people off from commencing or continuing with the Magnum Opus; just to not give anyone the impression that it will be a walk in the park or a visit to a spiritual Disneyland. Satanism -- all of it -- requires work and concentrated effort.
--- In , Forums Contributor < wrote:
It is very easy our words form associations in our mind they generate images and emotions, keep mentioning techinques that require simply being able to relax yourself first and being mind in matter, as hard and difficult to people and it generates the feeling of tension and hesitation towards doing them which causes just that when they do them to happen, and is likey to cause more frustation. Which causes them to connect stress to doing power meditation. Making them hard and difficult. When they are quite easy just relax and be present within yourself.
________________________________
From: chalchiuhnenetzin <jaguarcat2002@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:45:08 PM
Subject: Re: Physical & Spiritual Perfection (Was: 2012)
Not quite true. Let me elaborate: "hard" does not necessarily mean the painful, often unproductive striving and straining that one so often endures merely to survive under this system. Satanism itself is not an "easy" path. Effort is always required and for those who must learn self-discipline and come to an understanding that results are not instant ("I wanted it yesterday!") it is hard. Discouragement can set in at times, especially during such a period where one is re-engineering the way they have always done things. If one subscribes to the idea that 'everything is easy' they will miss the point, i.e., that effort and discipline are required if one is to make progress and will drop out at the first obstacle (real or imagined). Effort is also not easy for the naturally lazy; it will take time to replace the negative habit of laziness with one of discipline and concentration, not easy by any means.
I agree that often we make things harder than they need to be and it's a good idea to be on the lookout for times when we may be doing exactly that. But I've never believed in the proverbial rose-colored glasses: they distort too much and then lead to unhappy surprises.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "mageson6666" < ... wrote:
Everything is easy, unless you decide to make it hard.
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "chalchiuhnenetzin" <jaguarcat2002@ wrote:
You are right! The Path of the Gods (as some refer to the Magnum Opus) is long and difficult, and sometimes discouraging, but definitely doable! As for how many actual years it takes to complete, that would depend on the individual; but it is interesting to watch it unfold, even in the beginning stages where we presently are.
(So often we see posts on this forum that go, in effect: "I've been doing the Magnum Opus meditations for X months now [usually 2 to 6]. When is Pythia going to put the second part on the site?" But what is already on the site, what I refer to as the beginning or intro stage, is ample to keep one very, very busy for the next two to three years. This is a process that requires discipline, a lot of it, and cannot be rushed. We don't just wake up six months from now, step out of the shower, look in the mirror and say, "Hey! It's done!" On the contrary: sometimes there will be small 'quantum leaps' so to speak, at others one will notice small signs of progress, and most of the time, see "no" change. That 'no change' phase however is not actually a period of stagnation. The change starts, basically, on the inside. And some people forget, at least temporarily, that it is accompanied by corresponding spiritual advancement as well.)
One can only speculate on the social reaction in the world at large. One can imagine our pensions will cause some awkward glitches: who is going to believe one is 150 years old or more yet look 25, 35, or 40? But remember that as we progress in the Magnum Opus, our spiritual power increases as well; we will have the power and abilities to deal with whatever 'situations' arise. Also, remember that the world and its social systems will not be as they are now. We are coming into Satan's Age.
Working very closely with one's guardian demon is vital, not only in the Magnum Opus itself, but because of the guidance they can provide that is specifically geared to the unique situation of each of us, our present circumstances, AND the unfolding of our own soul's destiny. The possibilities are endless and we should remain open, even though we can't see those possibilities at this particular juncture.
(I've been mulling over the idea of starting a group, restricted to those who are dong the Magnum Opus and those who are sincerely interested in starting it, so we can 'compare notes', encourage each other, etc., but haven't decided yet whether this would be helpful. Running such a forum takes a lot of time and energy especially as I don't want it to just overlap the existing JoS groups; no need to re-invent the wheel.)
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "DerekD" <derekthehellviking @ wrote:
. . .
I was just thinking to myself how crazy, in an awesome way of course, it would be if I actually manage to live long enough to see the Age of Aquarius come about. A young man like me would be about 161 or 162 years old by the time the next age came about! Definitely nothing compared to the demons but it would still be considered impressive by our current society's standards. Although, wouldn't people find it quite strange that a guy over 130 years old or whatever was walking around and didn't seem old in the slightest? I'm kind of curious what the societal reaction would be to someone living to such an extreme age with no physical signs of aging.
I'm pretty glad I found Joy of Satan at a considerably youthful age. I was 20 when I first discovered the website. I should have plenty of time to spiritually perfect myself and reach godhead. Especially considering how longevity is known to have run through my family's ancestry. I've had many ancestors who lived into their 80s back when medicine was nothing compared to our modern care! Hopefully, it won't take me that long though. Although, if I understand right, getting up to that level of spiritual advancement isn't very easy.
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