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  1. Jrvan

    "We will convert your children"

    LGTBQ is literally led by jews though. The insane people who get really deep into the organization and lose themselves in it are all having their minds and behavior programmed by jews. What's senseless about it? I thought this was common knowledge here.
  2. Jrvan

    Why White-Gold instead of White Energy for Protection. Source?

    Oh well. If you ever run into this sort of thing again, just say that gold is the color of the sun which makes it perfect for burning away impurities in the aura, and that the sun was centrally important in Egypt with the colors gold and white gold being found in hieroglyphs and in temples and...
  3. Jrvan

    Need help to remove possible enemy curses

    Problems don't just appear overnight. They develop over a period of time. So likewise it cannot be an instant thing to remove those problems in a day, week, or month. If it took years to develop something then it's going to take a while to remove it or change it. Spell work very rarely produces...
  4. Jrvan

    "We will convert your children"

    You know what the gayest part about it is? That they think people care if they are gay. Like you'd think they would feel freaking safe by now. Just have sex with who you want and shut up - is that so hard for them? They act like there's people on every corner of every street pointing rifles at...
  5. Jrvan

    Big victory: Poll Reveals 58% of Americans Believe ‘The Media Are Truly the Enemy of the People’

    I think you're right on that. Radical leftists, a certain variety of boomers, and hippies. Oh and jews. And maybe brainwashed teens. I'd say those are the ones who make up what I endearingly call the "twitter IQ." I really like that phrase. I don't know if I coined it first, but I did start...
  6. Jrvan

    Biden announces Door to Door VACCINATION (precursor to Civil War and FEMA CAMPS)

    Well I don't think most people who are gun owners are actually looking for a gun fight. Most I think have the mentality of "only use it when I have to." Proper gun owners tend to be much more responsible unlike how they are represented. The unhinged nutjobs are usually kids that somehow managed...
  7. Jrvan

    What Happens If You Take The Vaccine?

    I have hope. I trust in our Gods, in our Satanic family, in our Creator Satan Lucifer. I know we will pull through this together. No matter what the enemy throws at humanity, we will still burst through to the sunny horizon where jews no longer exist. Freedom is our destiny. We will not be...
  8. Jrvan

    I’m done with groups. I’m going it alone.

    I don't even know what to tell you. Any advice I could possibly give is stuff you have probably heard before from everyone here over the years. An apology is only good if you change the pattern and don't do it again. That's something a schoolteacher/coach taught me one time when I was a young...
  9. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Oh you're right. It's certainly not as fluid and fast-paced as in the wild. A major benefit of society is that people don't have to be in a pure state of survival (except when artificially made that way by jews throwing everyone into poverty and isolation). This means that everyone is able to...
  10. Jrvan

    Why White-Gold instead of White Energy for Protection. Source?

    Cleaning the soul gets rid of the bad crap in it. It's simple law of attraction. If their aura is filthy then they are going to be drawn to filth. If their aura is clean then they are more likely to be drawn to higher vibration things, and their soul might eventually seek out JoS (speculating on...
  11. Jrvan

    Why White-Gold instead of White Energy for Protection. Source?

    Because white gold is found in various places all over Egypt as Maxine has said. I'll comment on the debate as well. This knowledge rightfully belongs to all gentiles. Our ancient ancestors left it behind for their descendants in the pyramids and other sacred structures, the mythologies, the...
  12. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Very nicely said. I'm glad you appreciate and understand both sides. Something I want to add which is separate from what you said (as in not arguing, just adding as a separate note): a lot of people around the world glamorize the Alpha type, the leader of the pack. But at the same time they...
  13. Jrvan

    Big victory: Poll Reveals 58% of Americans Believe ‘The Media Are Truly the Enemy of the People’

    I imagine the leftists most likely say that because they have been convinced that the fake news is coming from right wing outlets and alt right and alt tech sources. They pretty much just stole and re-branded Trump's fake news meme. It reminds me of how they made a subreddit one time called "the...
  14. Jrvan

    I’m done with groups. I’m going it alone.

    It's a real shame in my opinion. I'd rather not talk about it to be honest, but I'll share my feelings anyway because this is obviously a big deal. I feel extremely disappointed with this outcome even though I know Aldrick is directly responsible for his own actions. It's so frustrating to me...
  15. Jrvan

    FREE THE BLACK MIND

    Well I mean some people lie about themselves. I wouldn't take that thing at its word, personally. It might have 20 different private identities for all we know, alongside its fake public ones. I'm unconvinced either way. Maybe it's them, maybe it's not. Maybe SWG was making a joke. I haven't a...
  16. Jrvan

    I’m done with groups. I’m going it alone.

    I don't doubt you. Your spiritual insights are very fascinating and make sense to me, and you've contributed a lot to the forums. In fact, I just recommended your solar chakra working to someone the other day. Would be intrigued to find out your impressions of me some day. From my own...
  17. Jrvan

    Graphene in the vaccine

    I put that together a while back too. The whole "brrrrraaaains" thing is they are trying to attack the people who are still awake and intelligent so they can convert them into one of them. This new animated series just came out this month though. I don't actually have netflix. I saw it in the...
  18. Jrvan

    Graphene in the vaccine

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/CD77EJrCNJRm/ I found this video by Vincent coincidentally a few hours after I finished watching a 4 episode netflix original anime show about... zombies. It's based on the popular video game series "Resident Evil." I kept trying to analyze it to find the kosher...
  19. Jrvan

    Forced to get the Vaccine for Work

    Hey I just wanted to let you know that we're cool, as long as you don't lie about what Tabby said again, okay? She didn't call you a jew. I was the one who called you an infiltrator as a joke, and your reply where you said you saw me in church made me laugh. I thought it was funny and witty...
  20. Jrvan

    Family Values in Normal Life And Zevism

    You clearly don't know what a real sycophant is. Have you never seen the entourage parties that follow celebrities around? Have you ever seen an office worker who follows their boss around like a mosquito, always ready to please his every desire? Do you know what a star fucker is? Having...
  21. Jrvan

    Will Sex Work Hinder My Growth?

    He was basically telling you how to become a sugar baby. He may have been partially joking, but if you are serious about this then the best bet might be a Venus square with affirmations to do with attraction. So you know, attraction isn't only physical based. The reason for working with Venus is...
  22. Jrvan

    I’m done with groups. I’m going it alone.

    There's going to be a day where I don't say grammar soviets* But that day is not today.
  23. Jrvan

    I’m done with groups. I’m going it alone.

    That sounds like some Georgia Guidestones type shit. You know, the ones that were most likely made to make Satanists look bad. Stop dwelling in negativity if you can help it. You're feeding your own problems.
  24. Jrvan

    Making clothes at home - For Meteor

    Good job :)
  25. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Again, I didn't say that. Like Tabby said, you were the first to suggest that any SS call themselves a sheep (when you told her to call herself a sheep). The story didn't change. I simply didn't suggest for anyone to call themselves sheep. You keep putting that in my mouth. It's the third time...
  26. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I didn't even see it. It's in my inbox as a reply, and now it's gone. Probably a good thing I didn't see it if it's that bad. I was hoping that my reply to Aldrick was going to cause him to grow, but it just made him embarrass himself even more (which I considered as a possibility in my gamble)...
  27. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I care about sheep. They're very special to me. I'd say they are up there among my favorite animals along with wolves. Honestly I just love mostly all animals. Animals are amazing. One of the few that I wouldn't want to see in person is a skunk, and even then I don't dislike skunks at all. As...
  28. Jrvan

    About Mentally Ill People And Basket Cases

    Since cults were mentioned in the main post, I just want to say that I think it's really ironic that xianity is one of the longest lasting cults still standing (for now), and most people aren't even aware that they are part of such a cult. Cults are a big hot topic in society a lot of the time...
  29. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Well, you said some pretty over the top hurtful things so you shouldn't be surprised by her guard being up. And obviously it would be a little hard to interpret "Go call yourself a sheep" as sarcasm. You also lied about what I was saying a second time which is what pissed me off personally. I...
  30. Jrvan

    4th of July

    Today is a glorious day to honor and celebrate our ancestors' victory over jewish oppression, and the founding of our nation. It may be sorry times right now, but we will see our America reborn. Today we celebrate unapologetically. Happy Independence Day to all White Americans!
  31. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    This will be my final attempt to clarify everything because this is just pointless now. If anyone still doesn't understand even after this then I'm not answering anymore. My main point is stated clearly in the OP. Tabby's main point is essentially that the jews think of sheep as stupid just...
  32. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Goodness gracious. We live together. Of course we know each other well. You're not going for the greatest detective award, are you? I think you might be disappointed. Anyone with a bit of clarity and fresh eyes can see that we're not the same person. We have different energies, different...
  33. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    She is learning. But everyone from all walks of life can usually find something to teach as well. Tabby knows a lot about animals. She also knows a lot about sewing and seamstress work. And a wide variety of other topics too. Sometimes I'm surprised by the breadth of knowledge she has about...
  34. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Fair enough. If it happens then it happens. I'm still going to support eating animals even when that happens however because when the animal dies, it would be an utter waste of the animal's body. I mean, it's either that or leave it for the vultures. One way or another that animal is getting...
  35. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Well, since you're curious, my line of thinking with this is that some people in society talk way more about "stupid sheep" than they do about "stupid gangs." They could say to someone being a marxist, or a neo nazi (the bad kind), or a radical feminist, communist, etc... something like "Hey you...
  36. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Just because it seems like a waste of energy investment to you, doesn't mean it's not important to her. She wasn't even yelling in the first place. Nor was I. Neither of us did until things got personal. I already explained months ago that I really enjoy debate. It's something I like doing...
  37. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    As an add on to what I said before: of course it's abusive for xian pastors to constantly refer to everyone as sheep every morning at gathering, and especially in a demeaning way like they do mean it. That's fucked up. It of course makes no sense to constantly refer to anyone as your animals...
  38. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    The irony just dawned on me that I made a post that involved triggering people over the negative connotations of a word, and then as if to prove your point that you were explaining to me about peoples' perceptions and common usage of words, I got triggered by the negative connotations of the...
  39. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I also don't think it's a good idea to go around calling people sheep. Even if we thought of the term in a positive sense. Even if everyone in society tomorrow was suddenly okay with the term, and all of the negative connotations of the term were removed in peoples' minds... it would still be a...
  40. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Understood. Although Maxine also noted, IIRC, about the "lamb of God" being stolen from Horus in the Osiris myth. It's about the reborn soul. Xians don't have anything original that doesn't come from Pagan symbolism, as Maxine said many times. I get it though. And I definitely can't change the...
  41. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I see. Thank you for explaining. I know there's truth to things that people like SWG say when they talk about "appearance over reality" and such, but I don't like it. I guess it's just the way it is for now. How something looks and how it sounds is also very important. Not everyone is going to...
  42. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Do whatever you want.
  43. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    What I meant by "seeking truth" was that we should always look for the factual truth in things, like a proper scientist. I wasn't trying to force anything. I was presenting the facts. Facts are facts. What I was forceful about was people not making it a personal thing, not misrepresenting my...
  44. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Correction: they're part of the same subfamily tribe, caprini. My mistake.
  45. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Sheep are part of the same genus as goats, capricornis. They're used as a symbol in the Magnum Opus. Their male variant, the ram, is beloved by almost everyone. It's literally just the word "sheep" that is so absolutely negatively charged. And even if you say that no one is thinking like this...
  46. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    And like I already pointed out, it was used long before the xians ever used it. I never said we should call ourselves anything. You're the one telling me what I've said without even trying to wrap your mind around my messages to try to understand. Think what you want. I'm not a jew. My soul is...
  47. Jrvan

    Family Values in Normal Life And Zevism

    Absolutely amazing sermon. I don't know how you brought this all together and nailed this topic so thoroughly. You covered every part of it. Brilliant. I was raised by an abusive single mother, who herself was raised deep within xianity and was abused herself. Since coming to the JoS, my...
  48. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    People don't usually call humans in gangs stupid even though they all wear the same colors, all act/talk/think the same, don't do anything to improve their lives, and all they do is try to hurt people, steal, rip people off, and add more people to their gang. We probably should call them stupid...
  49. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I forgot to mention that I never said SS should be sheep. Aldrick said that I said that which I did not.
  50. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Also, common sense and popular perception are not the same thing. That's false.
  51. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Small-minded reply. She was courteous to you, and then you're rude back. You and your fake smile trick. Tch.
  52. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    If you don't have time for the video link (which I'm guessing is the case) then here are the main notes from the video: It's a really good video, and if you're interested then you can watch the rest sometime.
  53. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Part of our argument is that sheep as well as any animal can appear stupid to a human observer. The guy in the video in one of the links Tabby shared explains that really well. He explains that we can construct arguments to say that any farm animal is stupid. It's right here...
  54. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Umm... us not slaughtering animals for food isn't going to stop wild animals from slaughtering animals for food. And I'm really curious to know how they create dead flesh in a lab. I haven't heard of that. Can you provide some links to such things? By definition, meat is dead flesh. So I just...
  55. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    One of the cool things about humans is that they have the capability to learn the skills and behaviors of many different animals. They can be like different animals for many different roles, and they can learn through observation the many different patterns of all these different animals to gain...
  56. Jrvan

    Forced to get the Vaccine for Work

    If it were talking to the doctors, I would first express that it's my body and my choice. Then I would try explaining to them that achieving herd immunity through vaccines is a backwards concept because it's making everyone with a healthy natural immune system weaker in order to save everyone...
  57. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Actually I was saying the people of the JoS were the shepherds, but okay. Nice short-term memory loss bud. You okay?
  58. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Apology accepted. I need to cool down now. It's been a long time since I got that angry. For further elucidation, I wasn't actually trying to call you sexist. I was hypothesizing that maybe you were angry at radical feminists in general for the outrageous way they behave (understandably), so...
  59. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    If you noticed, our replies have been very thorough. We didn't skip anything. We evaluated your arguments, we evaluated your perception of our arguments, and we determined that you have the wrong idea about what we are saying. We think you have an incorrect assessment. First of all, you mean...
  60. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Okay, that's why I asked. So far I've made two assumptions about you. If my impressions were wrong then they were wrong. I didn't call you anti-women. I suggested that maybe you had a bug up your ass about radical feminists because it seemed like you often got defensive about such things. I...
  61. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I really don't even want to respond to this part. I feel shocked and disappointed.
  62. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    What is so hard to understand about this? We call the people in society stupid sheep, but it's not their fault. The jews are in charge of society. The people themselves don't know any better because only jews are guiding them. I used to be one of those "stupid" sheep. I used to listen to the...
  63. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Animals are Satanic, not xian. I want to change how people think of the animal. People thought for ages that serpents and snakes are sly, mischievous liars who are up to no good. When people come to Satanism, their impression of snakes change. Why can't it be the same with ewes? Why would...
  64. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I want to know if I'm right about you so I will ask: do you have baggage in regards to feminism? Have you had bad experiences with feminists and women who attacked your manhood, honor, and good character, and called it all into question? It hurts when that happens. It feels unfair. It feels like...
  65. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Every nation needs a leader. That's just a fact. Society can't run without someone making the decisions, and leading the destiny of the nation. That's why we had Pharaohs. I'm not glorifying humanity's present state - I'm glorifying their potential.
  66. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    But they are still the same species. Just like men and women have different traditional roles in society, but they're still the same race/species. Again, some people might have. And you wouldn't know it. Why declare so adamantly that "nobody said" something when you aren't everyone? How do you...
  67. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    For your first point about Anu, this actually has to do with the male trinity in religions. In Hindu they have the male trinity and the Tridevi female trinity. 3 male, 3 female. The "mother of god" is referring to "mary" from xianity. This is stolen from the Egyptian trinity of the Mother, the...
  68. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I also wanted to add that these ideas of mine about xian mindsets on women and sheep isn't necessarily about anyone on the forums here. This whole post could have just been applied to others outside the JoS who look down on sheep. Nobody had to get triggered by it. But some did. That's why I...
  69. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    It's not about you though. It's not about someone being a "bad person." It's telling someone that what they did was, accidentally or not, chauvinistic, dismissive, rude in an unintended way, or otherwise. It's informing someone of the error of their remarks. Look, sexism is a dirty word. It...
  70. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Did I accuse you specifically? You're the one making assumptions here. A LOT of them. Cool down and analyze my arguments more deeply. It's not as jewy as you currently perceive it to be. I choose my wording for things very carefully and methodically. I spend a long time on my comments with...
  71. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    The jews stole it from Tammuz/Dumuzid who was described as a God of Shepherds. His Greek counterpart is Adonis from which they stole the name for their "God" and tetragrammaton, "adonai." In Egyptian mythology, the counterpart is Osiris. All are the lovers of the Goddess of Springtime, and all...
  72. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Smarter according to your own metrics.
  73. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I've seen men on both aisles of the American political spectrum watching the news, and both sides tell me the same bullshit story: that they think it's all lies, but that THEY are intelligent enough to sort through the lies and determine what is the truth while watching. When I inform them that...
  74. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    The mouse has things it can do that the cat can't do. Every creature has its own racial soul and species that it belongs to. Each type of creature has its own specializations. Like Tabby said, a cheetah is superior to most in top speed. But it will be inferior in other categories of competition...
  75. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    That ram wouldn't exist without its mother. Whether domestic or wild sheep, it's still the ewes that give birth to and raise the rams. This is from wikipedia regarding wild sheep: See? Whether it's a human or a ram, it all depends on who the shepherd/leader is.
  76. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    "Sexist conspiracy theory" is an unfair portrayal of what she is saying. And you can't speak for everyone because you don't live in their heads. Anyone could have hangups that you don't know about. I made this post to challenge peoples' perceptions regarding animals. Sheep are not stupid. If...
  77. Jrvan

    Being Transgender/Feminization

    The soul can also be full of shit. Just saying.
  78. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Exactly! You get it. Just like a child trusts their parents for guidance until they have grown and learned enough to survive on their own. My idea is the same with sheep as it is with dogs. A dog follows whoever feeds it. A bad person can feed a dog, and the dog will be loyal and defend the...
  79. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I just realized that the natural relationship between humans and sheep is actually not master and slave. It's actually a symbiotic relationship. The humans are literally dependent on the sheep for their survival, just as the sheep depend on the humans. The main winter material for warm...
  80. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Say WUUUUT?
  81. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Right, it depends on the leader/shepherd like I said. Under jews, they're just disposable cattle slaves that are treated like shit. And when guided by us, we turn their lives to gold. We improve their lives, keep them safe, happy, healthy, and prospering. They live long, good, excellent lives...
  82. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    You nailed it!
  83. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    It sounds like you're saying I would go up to someone and call them a sheep in a derogatory manner. If anything I'd probably say something like "May you and your brothers shine brilliantly like Aries in the sky." And I'd probably be blessed in turn. People were more spiritual back then.
  84. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I think that's a sad mentality to have. I would like to refer you to this post: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=195676#p195676 What exactly makes you think that farm animals like sheep are so inferior? Every animal is precious and has its own qualities and way of life. The way I see...
  85. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Yeah, but if all our ancestors cared about was the horns then that's all they would have used in depiction rather than the whole animal, right? Instead you have Gods depicted with Ram heads in Egypt like Khnum, you have the Ba of Osiris being a Ram God, there's the the Ram of Mendes, the Sun...
  86. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    It's a simple fact that most people are looking for someone to guide them. That's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. Most xians were raised in it from a young age, and once they become disenchanted with xianity, a lot of them naturally look for alternative answers to replace the filth...
  87. Jrvan

    Invasion In Our Planet? Recent UFO invasion files?

    I saw a UFO last year after I dedicated and started doing the RTR's. At first while reading the JoS material, I wasn't sold on the aliens thing. I thought it was ridiculous, and considered it to be where I drew the line despite agreeing with everything else I found on the site. When I actually...
  88. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    My post was quite literally about sheep, and the use of the term. Nothing more. Your extrapolation of what I appeared to be implying is incorrect. I'm not saying we should make use of xians, lol. I'm saying that right now jews are the shepherds of xians, and one day I want us SS to be shepherds...
  89. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I'm not apologizing for xianity, I'm not advocating it, I'm not making excuses for it. So what are you talking about? Yes, it's a weapon that was forcefully used on innocent people. Those people are blinded by it, and they can't see. All I'm saying is that we have to be their light, rather than...
  90. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I thought of another thing I wanted to touch on about wolves. I've noticed that jews a lot of times like to think of themselves as wolves devouring the goyim sheep. However, wolves don't go into the middle of the flock and place a stereo blasting subliminal verses from the bible, or do weird...
  91. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Something cool I observed about this trio is that Sirius is one of the hunting companion dogs of Orion, and Orion the hunter hunts Taurus the Bull. Man and his best friend are hunting the bull of immortality (and immortality is also represented by Astarte with the number 8 and the bull...
  92. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Xians didn't invent the analogy of the church congregation being the pastor shepherd's flock. They stole it. Maxine has said a thousand times that jews and xians don't have anything original of their own, that they stole all of it from Pagans. The steeple on the church? A phallus/obelisk. The...
  93. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    I should also mention that the sheep is one of the most important symbols in Paganism as it's central in the beginning stage of the Magnum Opus. The Sun enters the sign of Aries the Ram, which is a sheep. Sheep are a literal symbol for the sun mantra Raum. You could say we guide our people...
  94. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Animal metaphors are just that - metaphors. They are used to more easily talk about certain things and quickly impart meaning, and add color to the pictured understanding in peoples' minds. What I'm attempting to do is reclaim the metaphor and change the negative charge that it has to instead a...
  95. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Well, here's the thing. Spiritual Satanism is the top level, it's for elites. You could say this is like the mystery schools. The people in ancient times knew the stories of the Gods, the myths, and it was passed down, and it shaped their culture. The Priests of Pagan societies were versed in...
  96. Jrvan

    Something You Don't Want to Hear

    Sheep get a really bad reputation, but what we need to realize is that all those xian sheep are greatly feared by the enemy. As much as it might be hard to admit, they have also posed a great problem to Satanists on Earth - otherwise they wouldn't be bitched about so often. I don't mean to poke...
  97. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    I suppose that makes sense. But why would a jew craft an allegory for us about turning the chakras to gold? Then again I can't pretend to understand why jews write half of the nonsense that they do. They make a living by selling our myths back to us in various corrupted formats.
  98. Jrvan

    The Power of the Origin Myth

    Maybe one day we'll have better DNA tracing, and factual gentile historians again. That would be really nice to help. Genetic archaeologists so to say. I did my best to comment on the slave trade originating from the jews as best as I could, but I didn't want to focus too much on that. Most...
  99. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Oh okay. I see. I've just been reading the JoS material and it was mentioned by Maxine about the enemy Nordics in one of the articles. I didn't know. Thank you.
  100. Jrvan

    how to become good computer gamer?

    I'm not sure what the best input is for this because I was always pretty good at PvP from the start. I don't know the exact reason why, but improvement came really fast for me. I'd set a challenge for myself or something usually, and then I would keep trying to achieve it in the game. Like when...
  101. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Well, the official narrative that they use is that a planet the size of Mars crashed into the Earth to form Earth's Moon. I read someone's comment on the forums here saying that this is to dissuade Phaeton theory. Crashed, destroyed by lasers, whatever the case, it apparently caused the flood on...
  102. Jrvan

    The Power of the Origin Myth

    I remember a few years ago reading an article about the origin myth, what it is, and how it works and affects people. IIRC, they explained how American ancestors had the Origin Myth of America being about them as conquerors, heroes, and self liberators who gloriously fought the British to secure...
  103. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    I remember in the pilot episode for Futurama, they had a visual scene of the passing seasons and ages showing the humans repeatedly rebuilding civilization only for it to get burned and shot with lasers by the spaceships of the green aliens in the show each time, over and over again. Could they...
  104. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Perhaps you're right. That would mean going back to square one in my understanding. What a shame. Although there is probably an element of truth to that story. The jews refer to themselves as gods and to us as slaves, and apparently gold has been found on the Moon just like on Earth. And the...
  105. Jrvan

    Christianity the first "woke mob"

    Nicely done. Know thyself, but also know thy enemy to win a thousand wars. One of the many applications of psychic abilities is thinking like your enemy to understand them. Even police detectives sometimes do this without even realizing that they are tapping into their psychic faculties to do...
  106. Jrvan

    ADL President Abraham Foxman: speech about destruction of white race, Jewish world domination

    it brings peace and joy to my heart whenever I see people defending my race and showing such heartfelt sympathy. Thank you, brother. I'm not going to police your comments, but as a suggestion, even if you're angry just try to remember that the word "nigger" is a very charged term. I of course...
  107. Jrvan

    RTR Spiritual Warfare Schedule June 19th to July 3rd

    What a boss reply. Respect.
  108. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Yep. Just like the Matrix movies too, as mentioned in the post. It's all the same story over and over again. Jews keep telling us what they've done, and they laugh at everyone for not realizing it. Maxine said that when we dedicate our souls to Satan, we become part of an energy collective...
  109. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    That's why the greys look the way they do. Their souls/celestial bodies were harvested and drained like a battery. Their terrestrial body is a reflection of that, and the grey microchipped shell is just a hollow vessel that has had its will replaced by the will of the enemy. There's nothing left...
  110. Jrvan

    About The Power Of Us and The Enemy - Visiting/Gazing Into Other Worlds

    Sounds like any being without a subconscious female side. The feminine side is nature and creativity. And what do jews hate the most? Females, Nature, and anything stronger than they are. They fear and hate anything they can't control. They either want to control something, or if they can't...
  111. Jrvan

    RTR Spiritual Warfare Schedule June 19th to July 3rd

    We started it on the 21st during the Waxing Moon in Scorpio. I think the Summer Solstice was a great time to start it because a huge part of the idea behind the working was preparing for the coming darkness, and strengthening the light to face it. Waxing Moon in Scorpio or Aries would be good...
  112. Jrvan

    Meaning of Number one in magic.

    More notes! 6 + 4 is 10. 6 x 4 is 24 which is the number of runes there are. 46 is 23 x 2, which is the 23 pairs of DNA chromosomes from each parent (male and female). 2 x 3 is 6. 2 + 3 is 5 which when multiplied by 2 (5 upside down) is 10, which is also the union of the male and female. Half...
  113. Jrvan

    Meaning of Number one in magic.

    1 looks like the WAS sceptre to me. It's also the phallus. 2 looks like a serpent. Interestingly 1 and 2 are the only numerals with a line at the bottom. 2 splits one into 2, just like the serpent with the forked tongue divides from the Aether to make creation. 3 when turned on its side looks...
  114. Jrvan

    RTR Spiritual Warfare Schedule June 19th to July 3rd

    No problem, Henu. Happy Summer Solstice :)
  115. Jrvan

    RTR Spiritual Warfare Schedule June 19th to July 3rd

    Tabby's GD worked with us on this. It's a runic working for anyone who feels they need it. Týr, Sól, Nauðr x36 AUM "My strength, will and courage are strong and empowered. My fears are unable to hold me back from doing all I need to thrive and survive, in the safest and most positive way for...
  116. Jrvan

    How do satanists discipline their children

    There are ways to show your child that you are the leader and that you are the one in control without hurting them. If someone is incapable of that then it's most likely an indicator of how they treat themselves deep down. I really believe that the more a person hurts themselves (without...
  117. Jrvan

    Racially motivated shooting spree in Alabama.

    Something else I should mention is that there's literally a myth where Athena overpowers Ares, and I believe this is symbolically representing the superiority of mental/spiritual warfare and defense. Athena is the Divine Mind, and that's why she emerges from Zeus's head fully clad in armor and...
  118. Jrvan

    My Beta died and it's my fault.

    This brings back memories of my childhood. I had a goldfish when I was really little, and we would go to the pet store to get the fish food. I saw this cool looking sunken ship toy that apparently was for fish tanks, and we got it so I could put it in the fishbowl. The poor little goldfish...
  119. Jrvan

    Racially motivated shooting spree in Alabama.

    The Tree of Life/Racial Soul of the jews/reptilians was uprooted from the soil of life a long time ago by Father Satan. The only reason the jews and their masters have been able to keep their uprooted Tree/Soul alive is through parasitism. What the FRTR is doing is destroying their already...
  120. Jrvan

    Racially motivated shooting spree in Alabama.

    Why have the jews survived as long as they have despite gentiles repeatedly trying to destroy them through the ages? Spiritual protection. They cut down the strength of gentiles while forcing gentiles to empower the aura of protection for the jews, among other things. Underestimating something...
  121. Jrvan

    Racially motivated shooting spree in Alabama.

    You're only holding yourself back with this. You should do workings for emotional healing, and after you have recovered, do a working to attract someone who is emotionally mature and won't hurt you, or ask Father to help you with that in a standard ritual. Girls aren't bad. Bad people are bad...
  122. Jrvan

    Sisyphus in the bible

    Certainly. I'm happy I helped. :)
  123. Jrvan

    Your Personal Liberty And Hating "Me"

    Nobody ever said anything about genocide of humans. We believe in O.R.I.O.N. which stands for Our Race Is Our Nation. Every race and subrace is its own nation, and will have its own land with its own people, laws, traditions, and culture. No non-white gentiles are going to face genocide, you...
  124. Jrvan

    18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

    That's brilliantly written.
  125. Jrvan

    Sisyphus in the bible

    I think the Greek myth was perhaps either a warning to everyone of the coming times when the jews would rule, or a myth inserted later by the jews. Either way it shows Sisyphus being punished for achieving immortality. Why would our own Gods punish us for completing Father Satan's Great Work...
  126. Jrvan

    who am i?

    I see your point. I just don't think the guy has it in him right now to humble himself enough to accept help even if he's asking for it. He also seems manipulative to me. That's my opinion and personal assessment of him. I know it's not my job to determine if he's fit or not though so I'll back...
  127. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Life is beautiful.
  128. Jrvan

    How To Succeed in Zevism: About Successful Cases Of Zevists

    This Cobra Show is pretty spectacular. Look at all of the comedy we get for free.
  129. Jrvan

    who am i?

    You don't get to play the victim here. All you're doing now is piggybacking off of other peoples' arguments against me and trying to amplify it. You say I'm oversensitive after you cried and made this big fuss over being called a fool and warned that there are people outside this community who...
  130. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    After re-reading this post, I'm kind of laughing at myself for reacting to it the way I did the first time. I totally misinterpreted it and assumed I was getting knocked down because my post seemed to relate and with the timing. How ridiculous. Oh well, I'm glad I can see the light of this post...
  131. Jrvan

    Are the United States waking up about WWII?

    Well, great, now I feel like I plagiarized from the High Priest's sermon :lol: Thanks Aquarius, that's a great read.
  132. Jrvan

    Are the United States waking up about WWII?

    I can't see democracy as a possibility for any good unless the civilian population is first raised to a certain threshold of spirituality. With a dumbed down population lacking spiritual knowledge, Italian fascism would be preferable at least in the short-term as long as jews are banned. Right...
  133. Jrvan

    who am i?

    The difference between you and Xnder is that unlike him, you actually wanted to help yourself and listen to people. He doesn't. He thinks he has it all figured out, and that no one is above him. Someone with an attitude like that is incompatible with the JoS even if their soul manages to guide...
  134. Jrvan

    who am i?

    All I'm doing is recounting the record for rhetorical purposes. By definition, if you imagine it for a moment, going around in the streets saying "fuck you" to any random stranger is abusive. My point was simply if someone acts like that then they shouldn't be helped, on principle. Continuing to...
  135. Jrvan

    How To Succeed in Zevism: About Successful Cases Of Zevists

    I spent my whole life trying to find this, and all I heard along the way was various bullcrap like "God works in mysterious ways" which never satisfied me (and only pissed me off and made me more determined to find answers for myself through contemplation). If they can't explain those mysterious...
  136. Jrvan

    Lunar Eclipse RTR Ritual: Shattering Enemy Defenses

    Thank you very much, High Priest HoodedCobra. I'm grateful.
  137. Jrvan

    Lunar Eclipse RTR Ritual: Shattering Enemy Defenses

    Really? Because your join date is about the same as mine. So who are you Scooby Doo? Who is behind that mask of yours since you've been here so much longer than I have. And yes, I dedicated only last year. That has nothing to do with anything lol. And even with less than a year under my belt...
  138. Jrvan

    who am i?

    He said that me and everyone who didn't even participate in this thread is "no good," and then said fuck you. To everyone uninvolved who never even spoke to him (and those involved were only being friendly and trying to help him in the first place). He threw his insult at the entire forum...
  139. Jrvan

    Opening a Satanic Lodge

    If you're that serious about it then make your money, but wait to see where we are politically in the next few years. It's been said that we will get our own politicians elected in 2024 which will be a huge help, and we're seeing just how badly the jews are hurting lately (a trend that will...
  140. Jrvan

    Advertising - Internet Warfare - Bi-Weekly Target Group

    The one speaking at around 4 minutes in looked like he was doing jedi mind tricks with his fingers, and he specifically chose the word "Demonic" to describe the hatred towards White people. If I had to guess, I'd say that they're trying to condemn hatred towards Whites now so that they can...
  141. Jrvan

    How normal are we

    Do what you can.
  142. Jrvan

    Lunar Eclipse RTR Ritual: Shattering Enemy Defenses

    High Priest, have you written any sermons in the past that explain what the realms are? If so, could I please be directed to it if you have time? I found Maxine's entry on the JoS website about the 4th dimension being the Astral, but I get the impression that you mean something else by higher...
  143. Jrvan

    who am i?

    I would only be willing to give the benefit of the doubt to xnder, personally. And I'm still very skeptical of him. As for Dval AKA Casper, he's kosher to be sure. The High Priest called him out as well. We don't need proof when jews are that obvious. Besides it's not a court of law. All we...
  144. Jrvan

    Lunar Eclipse RTR Ritual: Shattering Enemy Defenses

    Aldrick, how do you always manage to attract the attention of trolls? It's like you make enemies without even trying haha :lol:
  145. Jrvan

    How normal are we

    Maxine said that Satan told her Hell was emptied of souls. Meaning that all of Satan's warriors were reincarnated on Earth. This would have taken place over the past few decades, I believe. This literally is the final battle. That's why we're all here. Be very encouraged because Satan and his...
  146. Jrvan

    Co-Vid Exposed: Tony Fauci, Worst of humans

    Right. And I'm sure you have the amazing, revolutionary explanation for why the same illness spreads and infects large groups/communities all at once. How do you explain contagion? If it's not a virus or other transmittable infectious agent then tell everyone what it is. Why does contact between...
  147. Jrvan

    Lunar Eclipse RTR Ritual: Shattering Enemy Defenses

    I've been wondering about the dimensions question a lot lately too. I was racking my head trying to contemplate and figure out what that rabbi professor meant when he said that they're from a different dimension. I still can't come up with anything for what it could mean. I personally don't buy...
  148. Jrvan

    Secret Knowledge, New Information And Stolen Knowledge By Jews

    The future we all want and have been fighting for is so close now. We have to trust our Gods, our Priests, and all those who lead us towards the sunlit vision we are reaching for. Our ancestors survived the collapse of Rome, the Dark Ages, the Middle Ages, the Inquisition, the Bolshevik...
  149. Jrvan

    What is good meditation for depression

    You need to find somewhere that is safe and comfortable for you to scream. Is there something going on in your life involving people you live with, perhaps? I don't want to assume too much, but if it's something to do with home/family life then finding a network of people to hang out with would...
  150. Jrvan

    Advanced Knowledge: Witches Sabbath & The Lunar Month Purification Circle [Updated]

    Thank you High Priest. I think I will be making use of this soon.
  151. Jrvan

    Taxidermy/ animal stuffing

    Grammar soviets*
  152. Jrvan

    Is The Transformation Of Our World A "Conspiracy Theory", Or A Reality?

    This near exact state of mind was me not that long ago before I found the JoS. I was so desperately wanting the world and people to make sense for years because no matter where I looked everything just seemed backwards at every level, and everybody was crazy. I knew about judaism, xianity, and...
  153. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    Glad to see you're being more civil in your approach now. It's not like I disagreed with everything you said in some of your comments, but I'm very protective of people by nature, always have been, and I don't like seeing others whom I respect have their credibility and reputation undermined...
  154. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    That means a lot to me. Thank you.
  155. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    I hope this isn't how you think of me. In the past, you wanted to throw me in the swamp and saw me as an upstart know-it-all. I'm guessing that's not what this is about, and this is genuine well-intended advice and contribution. I've learned to give you the benefit of the doubt even when I feel...
  156. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    I warned you, didn't I? What did you expect? First you try to tell us who OUR God is. And then you go and call us sheep after crying and begging us to be nice to you and respect opinions. Hypocrisy is the hallmark of a stinky. lying. dirty. jew. Keep crying while you stab us, coward.
  157. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    Go be a god somewhere else then because you're not equal to Satan, and we don't just roll over and "respect" everyone's opinions here. You become what you tolerate. This is a place of teaching and learning, and in that spirit, right is right, and wrong is wrong. These forums are not a vector for...
  158. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Yeah. Friedrich Nietzsche put to death the jewish concepts of good and evil. They perverted the concept and values of morality. True morality and ethics is taught by the Gods, and has nothing to do with Karma. Karma is just the payoff of our work. If we don't have spiritual knowledge then we...
  159. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Ah, oops. I'm glad you understand the essence of my meaning though. Father gives us knowledge which leads us out of ignorance and into enlightenment. Is that more accurate?
  160. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    By the way, credit to Stormblood for pointing this out on another thread. It was very helpful to me.
  161. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    I'm here all week ;)
  162. Jrvan

    The Sampson Option-When Jews fall

    The jews aren't going to kill our planet. Don't even entertain such thoughts.
  163. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    Satan Lucifer is the Light Bringer and the Ruler of Light (Pride as the jews call it), and he did create our souls. Think again.
  164. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    I think the corruption in the concept of Karma is the association of it with morality. Yes Karma is the fruit of the planted seed, but I don't think that has anything to do with morality. It's not good actions versus bad actions... rather I would say the sliding scale is ignorance versus...
  165. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    They're literally anti-life and committed to destroying nature, and trying to kill Satan. If something like that is nature running on its natural program then that would be a nightmare. Why would nature try to stop itself from existing when nature encourages beings to evolve and advance? What...
  166. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    You know what the saddest part is? He used the name of one of the Gemini horse twins, Castor, as a setup name to receive all of the negativity that he generated towards himself. Castor and Pollux were very highly respected and venerated by Pagan societies. Jews always do this - using the names...
  167. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    This isn't Rick & Morty.
  168. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Everything I've learned so far by reading the JoS material and many, many sermons is all what my GD has guided me towards. I don't need to read anything that my GD hasn't directed my attention to. I felt no pull to go and read those scrolls at all. It didn't register as important to my...
  169. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    SatanisGOD.org I'm taking this as your admission of (((tribe))) membership. He is the creator of humanity. That is official JoS teachings, and said by HPS Maxine herself. She said he is the true Creator God of humanity. If he's not your creator then you're a jew. Bye bye.
  170. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    The reptilians are not part of nature. They are a twisted corruption and reversal of nature. They don't fit into polarity of the universe, they're literally not meant to exist. They are the enemies of Satan. Satan is Truth and Reality, so how can the enemies of Truth and Reality be part of Truth...
  171. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    Saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong, fool. Spiritual hierarchy exists, and jews, greys, and reptilians aren't part of that hierarchy because they aren't meant to exist. They are a passing thing that will eventually be obliterated from existence. Satan is number one in spiritual rank, and that...
  172. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    You're dogmatic, and you believe that writings can't be corrupted. Satan says that he leads to the straight path without a book. We don't need scrolls to know Truth, we only need to trust and follow Satan. Your reliance on some scrolls and some human calling himself a spiritual guru (The Demons...
  173. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    Well, Saxon? How does it feel to get your balls busted by the High Priest? You see, unlike you, he believes in good business. Services rendered = services paid. There are many here who would love for him to keep the money, but that's what donations are for. From the very beginning, Hoodedcobra...
  174. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    You honestly sound like you have a repressed desire for recognition. If you confronted that desire and worked with it in a healthy way then you would have a higher chance of success in gaining it. And yes, actions speak for themselves, but you can't expect people to be aware of it when you don't...
  175. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    You talk of respect while simultaneously disrespecting Aquarius, Naked Pluto, and indirectly many others who have made huge contributions. You don't even know Aquarius, but you will regret talking down to him one day. You have no idea what he's made of. You're the one who is going to look silly...
  176. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    I didn't say it would be easy or smooth. Just that it would happen. It's inevitable. Like you say we're paving the path to that reality. You should also realize that there are many societies on planets within the Empire of Orion, and they are all Dharmic. Those that aren't caged under reptilian...
  177. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    No wait... I think I did read that article when I made the post, but I hadn't reflected on it to the extent that I did later in the evening. The insights and conclusions came after, and I reviewed the article again in my excitement to make sure. I think that's how it went. Please excuse my tired...
  178. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Needless to say, my convictions are solidified.
  179. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    I just found this article regarding Rta and Karma on the internet. I had no awareness of this prior to my previous post where I referred to Karma as jungle law, nor did I realize at that time just how perfectly apt that description is. Jews are always trying to push karma and blame onto us, and...
  180. Jrvan

    About the Beauty Of This World

    Even though you've presented this a lot better now, I still think Karma is basically just jungle law. It's what you get when society is Adharmic. In Dharmic society there's no need for Karma because everyone is in alignment with Truth. Karma is also such a loosely defined concept with so many...
  181. Jrvan

    About Treating People and Zevists Joining The Forum

    Very nice analysis. I'm skeptical of the third sex category as I personally think masculinity/femininity is more like a sliding scale in each person. In other words, everyone has their own unique balance. IIRC this was more or less HPHC's stance on it as well, but he can correct me if I'm...
  182. Jrvan

    The Torah, a plagiarized patchwork of Mesopotamian origin

    A couple of criticisms. First of all, Abraham is a perverted anagram of Brahma. The two letters R and A in Brahma aren't taken from the name of the Egyptian God Ra. Next, the flood myth is an allegory for the water of heaven washing away the dross of the soul. The drowning humans, the ones...
  183. Jrvan

    Dvaita, Advaita, or Bhedabheda?

    This makes perfect sense to me. You explained it perfectly. Thank you very much, Jack. You don't have to worry about me doing such a thing. I was only looking briefly at the different schools of thought because I wanted to get a better idea of what Likman666's arguments were based on so that I...
  184. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    Do what you want, but you're wrong about the concepts that you are publicly speaking about. Private belief is one thing, but public discourse is another. You're simply wrong. The word God comes from the word Goat which is Father Satan's symbol. It's right on the symbol at the top of the forum...
  185. Jrvan

    My dog

    First of all: you said in the thread title that it's your dog, but in the post itself you said it's your dad's dog. Which is it? That's an important detail. Without knowing that first fact... my general advice is to get evidence of it. Whether that's secretly filming it with a device, or...
  186. Jrvan

    The irony of virginity in a book of lies

    I may have made a mistake. I now believe that the Hindu concept of Rta is cognate with Themis and Maat, and Dharma is cognate with Dike. Human tier justice and society is meant to be derived and based on Cosmic tier justice, law, order, and truth. Humans are supposed to reflect their society as...
  187. Jrvan

    Sisyphus in the bible

    I realized today that the story of Sisyphus being punished by Zeus is the exact same story in the xian bible of "god" punishing humanity for eating from the tree of knowledge, and trying to eat from the tree of life. Knowledge leads to immortality and perfection. Cheating death twice = avoiding...
  188. Jrvan

    is Satan almighty?

    I can't believe I have to share my occult notes in a thread like this of all places. Whatever... go where the relevancy exists. In my understanding, Brahma is the Aether, Shiva and Shakti are its manifested male and female aspects, and Vishnu is the manifested elements. Vishnu is Zeus. The four...
  189. Jrvan

    Dvaita, Advaita, or Bhedabheda?

    Upon some rudimentary research, I found that there are three schools of thought in regards to the Atman/Brahman question. Atman = Brahman, Atman =/= Brahman, and Atman both is and isn't Brahman. I'm leaning towards Bhedabheda school of thought as I am suspicious of the other two possibly being...
  190. Jrvan

    The irony of virginity in a book of lies

    No problem. People are going to regret looking down on you. Just believe in yourself.

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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