Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

Why are there no Earth squares, plus what do the mantras say?

Big Dipper

#1

It makes sense to me that when we use a mantra that deals with a specific planet, we are invoking the energy from said planet. And I think the mantra's we use have to deal with the noises the planet's make, for example: The Sun is said to make an "Aum" sound My sourceExternal ↗ . (I didn't bother reading all of it but I mainly was interested in the Planet's noise bit)

So that makes me wonder why we don't have an earth square, unless we do in a way and that would be the moon?

Also, what are the mantra's saying for the planet squares? I noticed all of them start with Aum, then the Sun has this:
HRAAM HRIM HRAUM SAU SURYAE
Moon:
ŞRAAM ŞRIM ŞRAUM SAU CHANDRAMASE
Mercury:
BRAAM BRIM BRAUM SAU BUDHAAYA
Venus:
DRAAM DRIM DRAUM SAU SHUKRAYA
Mars:
KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA
Jupiter:
GRAAM GRIM GRAUM SAU GURUAVE
Saturn:
PRAAM PRIM PRAUM SAU SHANISWARA

Finally, at the end of each mantras we have Nama or Svaha. Nama being Material/earthly affairs and Svaha being spiritual affairs.

Then, if one is doing the shortcut mantras you just cut out everything but Aum then the "Important word" and Svaha/Nama.
So that tells me the last word before Nama/Svaha has to deal with the planet itself. Is it a god's name? Also, the letters that are highlighted that differ from each other mantra, yet all share the same word - why? Are the sounds stimulating the respective chakra? And are "Raam Rim Raum Sau" just power words?

Discussion

Dragonheart666
#2

Yes I was wondering that too? Why don't we have an earth Square along with the others that we do?

#3
Dragonheart666 wrote:View source

Yes I was wondering that too? Why don't we have an earth Square along with the others that we do?

I know that the outer transcendental planets have squares but they're too dangerous for us to do, even for advanced people I'd bet. So they are kept safely away for our benefit.

#4

To my understanding, it's because Earth is the host planet, we are born on it, we are already well connected to it and live within it's energy all the time[it's why going out in nature and a desire to live in it is pretty much hardwired in us all and it can help a non-Zevism to balance the Earth energy in them, it's also great to walk barefoot a few minutes on green grass if your feet chakras are open]. And then I've noticed how we recharge some stones by burying them in Earth, and how an advanced Zevist invokes the Earth element. This gives me the conclusion that you don't need to use square mantra of the planet you are born on because the energies of that planet are all around you.

And I think if one were to be born on Mars, they would have the choice to do the Earth Square instead.

Dragonheart666
#5
Big Dipper wrote:View source

I know that the outer transcendental planets have squares but they're too dangerous for us to do, even for advanced people I'd bet. So they are kept safely away for our benefit.

Probably for later use. In the future of the Advanced mind of Zevism

Dragonheart666
#6

I have been studying those mantras. And I love doing planetary squares! And she did an awesome job with this

#7
Big Dipper wrote:View source

HRAAM HRIM HRAUM SAU SURYAE
Moon:
ŞRAAM ŞRIM ŞRAUM SAU CHANDRAMASE
Mercury:
BRAAM BRIM BRAUM SAU BUDHAAYA
Venus:
DRAAM DRIM DRAUM SAU SHUKRAYA
Mars:
KRAAM KRIM KRAUM SAU BHAUMAYA
Jupiter:
GRAAM GRIM GRAUM SAU GURUAVE
Saturn:
PRAAM PRIM PRAUM SAU SHANISWARA

The first part (before sau) is called BijaExternal ↗ (seed) mantra.

The second part (after sau) has to do with the name of the God associated with the planet and also the planet itself. Similar to English where "Saturn" is both the name of a God and also the name of the planet.

Surya is the sun in Sanskrit. Suryaya or suryaye is the dative case of Surya in Sanskrit grammar.

The same with the other planets:

Chandra is the moon.

Shukra is Venus

Budha is Mercury

Brihaspati or Guru is Jupiter

Shani (or Shaniswara) is Saturn.

Though I'm not sure how Bhauma is used for Mars as Mars is called Mangala in Sanskrit. Maybe it's an alternative name.

More info on the Sanskrit names for planets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NavagrahaExternal ↗

#8
Invictvs wrote:View source

Though I'm not sure how Bhauma is used for Mars as Mars is called Mangala in Sanskrit. Maybe it's an alternative name.

In Sanskrit, "Bhau/Bhaum/Bhauma" also means 'Earth' or 'Earthly/relating to Earth/produced or coming from Earth'

In Hindu mythology, Mars is considered to be the son of the Earth. Bhaumaya meaning “son of the Earth”.
"Bhaumaya" refers to Lord Mangal.

#10
Invictvs wrote:

Big Dipper wrote:View source

I know that the outer transcendental planets have squares but they're too dangerous for us to do, even for advanced people I'd bet. So they are kept safely away for our benefit.

I personally think the lunar northern and southern nodes are actually energy of Neptune and Uranus, I find it hard to believe these super advanced meditators never felt the energy of other plants at play and didn’t know anything about them until telescopes. They called these nodes shadow planets.

They have mantras for them that are safe, nobody has done the math yet of putting them into squares, that would be a job for Lydia or Cobra since it would take advanced knowledge of astrology.

For right now you can do the simplified 40 days ten reps of the mantra for the northern node if you want a Uranus square or the same thing for southern node for Neptune. I may experiment with Neptune when I feel advanced enough.

StormbloodActive Helper
#11
Invictvs wrote:

No, they don't have squares actually, because the squares and the mantras come from a time when these planets were not discovered yet because they didn't have advanced telescopes and the people only knew the 7 classical planets up to Saturn.

Not true about the ancients not knowing the transcendental planets. You think that highly-spiritual people - in generations when many people ascended to Godhood compared to know that maybe you see a single exception every 100 years or longer - didn't know that there are other influences beyond the sphere of personal planets?

You think that the people who built the Pyramids and similar structures in the Age of Leo, aligned with specific stars much further than the 3 transcendental planets, didn't know what else is in our solar system? They had more advanced forms of geometry, physics, architecture and other sciences but somehow never bothered to know about astronomy? When the majority of priesthood around the ancient world could astral travel, would they not have explored the local space around this part of the galaxy, if not the whole galaxy itself?

The fact they allegedly did not know is only enemy lies. Nothing more. They hid this knowledge to confuse people. Now, we don't need squares for those planets anyway because we are aware they are beyond what a human being can control. So, there's no point in passing them through history. The Ancient priesthood at a higher level of advancement knew that well.

We focus on what our souls are equipped to control, which is the 7 "inner" planets. We literally have chakras to manage the energy of each of them and utilise it properly. The 3 "outer" planets rule things that are not of the individual level but of the mass mind. Thing everyone is connected to. Maybe it would be possible to harness these energies in group rituals that only priesthood and other advanced people can engage in. If that was the case, then a square wouldn't be needed because squares handle energies only at the individual level, not at the collective level, as far as I know. Hence why we never use squares in group rituals.

#12
Niko_is_666 wrote:View source

In Sanskrit, "Bhau/Bhaum/Bhauma" also means 'Earth' or 'Earthly/relating to Earth/produced or coming from Earth'

I looked it up, one definition of "Bhauma" says it means "son of the earth" and refers to Mars. Bhaumaya is the dative case of Bhauma, like almost everything ending in "ya" is.

https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/bhaumaExternal ↗

https://learnsanskritlanguage.com/grammar/starting-out/noun-basics/nouns-cases/External ↗