Sanskirt vs Necronomicon

WinterWarrior666 wrote:

For my own reasons, for the Full Chakra meditation I am considering switching from the full Sanskirt mantras (Yaum, Vaum, Aum, etc) to the Necronomicon mantras (Marduk, Inanna, etc).

However I heard they are not as powerful, can anyone tell me how much less powerful they are than the full sanskirt so I can know if it is a good idea or not? Half as powerful? One third? Three 4ths?

Also, can someone tell me why vibrating the names of the gods elevates certain chakras? Can someone tell me what mechanics are happening there? And are there potentially other benefits to vibrating the god names than just empowerment of respective chakra?

Different people, have different experiences. Some like planetary more some others. You have to try for your self. By vibrating the gods names, you will have a closer connection to them.

The Aums (I don't call them sanskrit as sanskrit usually refers to the sanskrit planetary mantras) are great for tuning the chakras, but not empowering. So they can feel very powerful until the chakras are balanced, and then they aren't powerful.

I have has great results from the Sumerian God names you mentioned. God names are very powerful, their names mean something and do deep empowerment of the chakras and soul. I don't know the science behind it though.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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The Aums (I don't call them sanskrit as sanskrit usually refers to the sanskrit planetary mantras) are great for tuning the chakras, but not empowering. So they can feel very powerful until the chakras are balanced, and then they aren't powerful.

I have has great results from the Sumerian God names you mentioned. God names are very powerful, their names mean something and do deep empowerment of the chakras and soul. I don't know the science behind it though.

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Lydia [JG wrote:

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The Aums (I don't call them sanskrit as sanskrit usually refers to the sanskrit planetary mantras) are great for tuning the chakras, but not empowering. So they can feel very powerful until the chakras are balanced, and then they aren't powerful.

I have has great results from the Sumerian God names you mentioned. God names are very powerful, their names mean something and do deep empowerment of the chakras and soul. I don't know the science behind it though.

So basically planetary squares aren't as strong as the Necronomicon meditations?

Bright Truth wrote:

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Well, did you feel they were empowering your chakras? Always go by feel. If they work for you then keep at it. Perhaps they are good for some people at certain stages of advancement, I used them for a while but no longer. Although I have used them recently for Watchtowers (I did all in one day), but I think Sowilo might be better anyway.

Kavya Shukra wrote:

So basically planetary squares aren't as strong as the Necronomicon meditations?

I never said that. I said the Aums, which the OP called Sanskrit. I think some people would find the planetary square mantras to be more strong than Necronomicon ones.

WinterWarrior666 wrote:

For my own reasons, for the Full Chakra meditation I am considering switching from the full Sanskirt mantras (Yaum, Vaum, Aum, etc) to the Necronomicon mantras (Marduk, Inanna, etc).

However I heard they are not as powerful, can anyone tell me how much less powerful they are than the full sanskirt so I can know if it is a good idea or not? Half as powerful? One third? Three 4ths?

Also, can someone tell me why vibrating the names of the gods elevates certain chakras? Can someone tell me what mechanics are happening there? And are there potentially other benefits to vibrating the god names than just empowerment of respective chakra?

Sanskrit is the oldest language and has great power. The mantras themselves, recited in Sanskrit, have great power. To open Chakras, it is better to use Sanskrit mantras, as they have greater power and the Chakras can be opened faster.

Sanskrit mantras also contain mantras that are to some extent weaker than others. There are several types of mantras for Chakras, with a nice list of who can and cannot use them. For beginners, there is a weaker version of the Sanskrit Mantras, and for advanced learners there is a stronger version.

The Necronomicon Mantras also have quite strong properties, but the Sanskrit Mantras are stronger in my opinion, (This is my opinion, you may have a different opinion) but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't use either one. However, if you start working with a Sanskrit mantra in a particular Chakra, for example the heart Chakra, you should work with Sanskrit mantras in the other Chakras.

However, I think the Necronomicon Mantras are more Spiritual, but I think the Sanskrit Mantras are stronger.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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Bright Truth wrote:

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Well, did you feel they were empowering your chakras? Always go by feel. If they work for you then keep at it. Perhaps they are good for some people at certain stages of advancement, I used them for a while but no longer. Although I have used them recently for Watchtowers (I did all in one day), but I think Sowilo might be better anyway.

Kavya Shukra wrote:

So basically planetary squares aren't as strong as the Necronomicon meditations?

I never said that. I said the Aums, which the OP called Sanskrit. I think some people would find the planetary square mantras to be more strong than Necronomicon ones.

I think that Sanskrit mantras are useful for working at the Watchtowers, they are very powerful and you can develop quickly. Necronomicon mantras are deeply spiritual, but Sanskrit mantras are much more powerful in my opinion.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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Bright Truth wrote:

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Well, did you feel they were empowering your chakras? Always go by feel. If they work for you then keep at it. Perhaps they are good for some people at certain stages of advancement, I used them for a while but no longer. Although I have used them recently for Watchtowers (I did all in one day), but I think Sowilo might be better anyway.

Kavya Shukra wrote:

So basically planetary squares aren't as strong as the Necronomicon meditations?

I never said that. I said the Aums, which the OP called Sanskrit. I think some people would find the planetary square mantras to be more strong than Necronomicon ones.

Oh, my bad. I'm currently using planetary squares tho Im planning to do the Necronomicon meditations, can both be done at the same time?

Lydia [JG wrote:

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Bright Truth wrote:

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Well, did you feel they were empowering your chakras? Always go by feel. If they work for you then keep at it. Perhaps they are good for some people at certain stages of advancement, I used them for a while but no longer. Although I have used them recently for Watchtowers (I did all in one day), but I think Sowilo might be better anyway.

I tried now to tell the difference. Yes, you are right. Empowering feel is quite different. I can't describe it but I understand. Saulo seems perfect for it.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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Bright Truth wrote:

I have really wasted my time, and many others did so... I wish I had knew this before. Thank you Lydia, I will use Saulo or God names to empower them hence forth...

Well, did you feel they were empowering your chakras? Always go by feel. If they work for you then keep at it. Perhaps they are good for some people at certain stages of advancement, I used them for a while but no longer. Although I have used them recently for Watchtowers (I did all in one day), but I think Sowilo might be better anyway.

Kavya Shukra wrote:

So basically planetary squares aren't as strong as the Necronomicon meditations?

I never said that. I said the Aums, which the OP called Sanskrit. I think some people would find the planetary square mantras to be more strong than Necronomicon ones.

It is wrote on ToZ that the sanskrit are the most powerful to use for a full chakra meditation. It would be weird if they would not empower that much. Maybe it's you? I remember HP saying that if someone has used a certain type of word of power in a past life it would resonate better than others if vibrated now. Maybe this is the case here?

I have to try because I always sticked with the Aum's so I can compare it with my experience.

These aren't exactly Necronomicon mantras but Divine names and should be treated with the utmost respect. I personally find it very blasphemous to say that "Inanna" as a mantra is weaker than whatever. And the same can be said of any other God/Goddess name.

Inanna and Isis are the second-oldest names given by our people to Lady Inanna, as Sumerian, Ancient Egyptian and Vedic Sanskrit are the oldest languages known to us. These names are nearly a century years old, older than any Greek, Roman, and Norse name. Before that, I have no idea what language was used in the original civilisation but, presumably, Vedic Sanskrit.

The functions of different mantras are different. The _AUMs in particular have an elemental nature. Divine names have other alchemical functions that relate directly to the sigil of the God invoked.

Stormblood wrote:

These aren't exactly Necronomicon mantras but Divine names and should be treated with the utmost respect. I personally find it very blasphemous to say that "Inanna" as a mantra is weaker than whatever. And the same can be said of any other God/Goddess name.

Inanna and Isis are the second-oldest names given by our people to Lady Inanna, as Sumerian, Ancient Egyptian and Vedic Sanskrit are the oldest languages known to us. These names are nearly a century years old, older than any Greek, Roman, and Norse name. Before that, I have no idea what language was used in the original civilisation but, presumably, Vedic Sanskrit.

The functions of different mantras are different. The _AUMs in particular have an elemental nature. Divine names have other alchemical functions that relate directly to the sigil of the God invoked.

I do agree but it is wrote on the ToZ that Necronomicon are for beginners and the Aum's for advanced. It's not anyone fault if they say they are weaker. Either the information is outdated or there is a misunderstanding.

The Sanskrit AUMs are very powerful if you meditate while you vibrate them. I also hit the maximum of them one time, then I learned to meditate on the vibration produced, and expand this effect of the chakras. You cannot count or have any other awareness, but they are powerful. The Aums are a loop of generative energy and structure on which the meditation can take place. You build a train, you drive this train and let it run, then you start working on this train and walk around.

The power stands in the individual, to produce something with an instrument. If you are powerful the vibrations are also powerful. Regardless, all of these vibrations have dangerous repercussions if done mindlessly. Do not think that they are weak or whatever. In time, learn to connect meditation, vibration, visualization, breathing, and intention into one goal and action, and there it is the power.

Also, as many times as stated in the past and here also, If something works for you, do not change it or have doubts about it. Learning is not on a doubtful aspect that leads to devaluation, but rather a curiosity which is a creational seeking aspect. Everyone has a unique composition and set of emotional, mental, and spiritual modulators. If you find your personal key, don't change it for another one.

You need to also experiment and see what is what, simple as that. You do something and has an effect. Compare the effects, also in time and in the present. Have notes, do a study.

NakedPluto wrote:

The Sanskrit AUMs are very powerful if you meditate while you vibrate them. I also hit the maximum of them one time, then I learned to meditate on the vibration produced, and expand this effect of the chakras. You cannot count or have any other awareness, but they are powerful. The Aums are a loop of generative energy and structure on which the meditation can take place. You build a train, you drive this train and let it run, then you start working on this train and walk around.

The power stands in the individual, to produce something with an instrument. If you are powerful the vibrations are also powerful. Regardless, all of these vibrations have dangerous repercussions if done mindlessly. Do not think that they are weak or whatever. In time, learn to connect meditation, vibration, visualization, breathing, and intention into one goal and action, and there it is the power.

Also, as many times as stated in the past and here also, If something works for you, do not change it or have doubts about it. Learning is not on a doubtful aspect that leads to devaluation, but rather a curiosity which is a creational seeking aspect. Everyone has a unique composition and set of emotional, mental, and spiritual modulators. If you find your personal key, don't change it for another one.

You need to also experiment and see what is what, simple as that. You do something and has an effect. Compare the effects, also in time and in the present. Have notes, do a study.

Thanks for the advice Naked Pluto. I appreciate it.

NakedPluto wrote:

The Sanskrit AUMs are very powerful if you meditate while you vibrate them. I also hit the maximum of them one time, then I learned to meditate on the vibration produced, and expand this effect of the chakras. You cannot count or have any other awareness, but they are powerful. The Aums are a loop of generative energy and structure on which the meditation can take place. You build a train, you drive this train and let it run, then you start working on this train and walk around.

The power stands in the individual, to produce something with an instrument. If you are powerful the vibrations are also powerful. Regardless, all of these vibrations have dangerous repercussions if done mindlessly. Do not think that they are weak or whatever. In time, learn to connect meditation, vibration, visualization, breathing, and intention into one goal and action, and there it is the power.

Also, as many times as stated in the past and here also, If something works for you, do not change it or have doubts about it. Learning is not on a doubtful aspect that leads to devaluation, but rather a curiosity which is a creational seeking aspect. Everyone has a unique composition and set of emotional, mental, and spiritual modulators. If you find your personal key, don't change it for another one.

You need to also experiment and see what is what, simple as that. You do something and has an effect. Compare the effects, also in time and in the present. Have notes, do a study.

Sir I have a question.

I'm trying to be brief. Basically I have to decide between going outside and being able to freely vibrate vocally (however occasionally people may pass by, or there may be sounds that distract me) without being able to go into a trance or have good concentration, or staying home meditating and vibrating mentally (however I would be more comfortable and able to concentrate as much as I am capable of).

Should I opt for the second one? If yes, my question would be if you think it would bring me good results to do almost everything mentally.

Since you were talking about vibration and I was finding this sentence important "learn to connect meditation, vibration, visualization, breathing, and intention into one goal and action, and there it is the power" I thought I could ask.

I believe that to do everything mentally in an efficient way with results you must be advanced, but I was looking for opinions about it.

Sorry for the off topic.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

I think that Sanskrit mantras are useful for working at the Watchtowers, they are very powerful and you can develop quickly. Necronomicon mantras are deeply spiritual, but Sanskrit mantras are much more powerful in my opinion.

I've discussed it with other advanced Zevists who feel the same as me. Have you done the Aums for many years? Compared to many years of Sumerian, runic, etc? Or are you going based off a year or less? Just curious, because when HPS Pythia first posted about the Aums she said they were among the most powerful she had ever done, but then she changed the chakra section a while after so they were no longer listed prominently. But different things work for different people.

luis wrote:

It is wrote on ToZ that the sanskrit are the most powerful to use for a full chakra meditation. It would be weird if they would not empower that much. Maybe it's you? I remember HP saying that if someone has used a certain type of word of power in a past life it would resonate better than others if vibrated now. Maybe this is the case here?

I have to try because I always sticked with the Aum's so I can compare it with my experience.

Read my reply for right above this, same thing applies. I've discussed this with other advanced Zevism, they found the same thing, the Aums feel incredibly strong for a while but once the chakras are balanced/tuned they do not. I have done years of runic, Sumerian, and other mantras.

I did the Aums for a few years based off HPS Pythia saying they were the most powerful, but then changed back after guidance from a Goddess.

Kavya Shukra wrote:

Oh, my bad. I'm currently using planetary squares tho Im planning to do the Necronomicon meditations, can both be done at the same time?

You can. Like, Sumerian for all, and the planetary square for the chakra you are working on. I've done it like that before, with runic in all and planetary square for the one chakra for extra empowerment.

Bright Truth wrote:

I tried now to tell the difference. Yes, you are right. Empowering feel is quite different. I can't describe it but I understand. Saulo seems perfect for it.

Sowilo is awesome for the chakras, I've used it extensively in the past.

Stormblood wrote:

These aren't exactly Necronomicon mantras but Divine names and should be treated with the utmost respect. I personally find it very blasphemous to say that "Inanna" as a mantra is weaker than whatever. And the same can be said of any other God/Goddess name.

Inanna and Isis are the second-oldest names given by our people to Lady Inanna, as Sumerian, Ancient Egyptian and Vedic Sanskrit are the oldest languages known to us. These names are nearly a century years old, older than any Greek, Roman, and Norse name. Before that, I have no idea what language was used in the original civilisation but, presumably, Vedic Sanskrit.

The functions of different mantras are different. The _AUMs in particular have an elemental nature. Divine names have other alchemical functions that relate directly to the sigil of the God invoked.

This is why I keep writing "Sumerian" as that is what they are, the Sumerian Gods. Your last paragraph is very true, perhaps that's why I was guided to the Sumerian names again, after years of working on my soul I don't need elemental energies. I need the Gods and Goddesses.

NakedPluto wrote:

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Good input. People need to find what is best for them, and not just do something because they read from someone that a certain mantra is more powerful. For me, the Aums have a purpose, but they are not all a person needs.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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BrightSpace666 wrote:

I think that Sanskrit mantras are useful for working at the Watchtowers, they are very powerful and you can develop quickly. Necronomicon mantras are deeply spiritual, but Sanskrit mantras are much more powerful in my opinion.

I've discussed it with other advanced Zevism who feel the same as me. Have you done the Aums for many years? Compared to many years of Sumerian, runic, etc? Or are you going based off a year or less? Just curious, because when HPS Pythia first posted about the Aums she said they were among the most powerful she had ever done, but then she changed the chakra section a while after so they were no longer listed prominently. But different things work for different people.

luis wrote:

It is wrote on ToZ that the sanskrit are the most powerful to use for a full chakra meditation. It would be weird if they would not empower that much. Maybe it's you? I remember HP saying that if someone has used a certain type of word of power in a past life it would resonate better than others if vibrated now. Maybe this is the case here?

I have to try because I always sticked with the Aum's so I can compare it with my experience.

Read my reply for right above this, same thing applies. I've discussed this with other advanced Zevism, they found the same thing, the Aums feel incredibly strong for a while but once the chakras are balanced/tuned they do not. I have done years of runic, Sumerian, and other mantras.

I did the Aums for a few years based off HPS Pythia saying they were the most powerful, but then changed back after guidance from a Goddess.

I have to try. To be honest I always did the Aums for years too. I do feel like I'm stuck and not empowering as much as before so maybe this is why. To change my empowering routine I do the Raum meditation which feels very empowering for a while but then I have to change again because I feel stuck.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed, as a lot of this is all news to me. I don't think it is a coincidence when a bunch of advanced members all come to share knowledge on a topic, with each person contributing something unique.

NakedPluto wrote:

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I appreciate your insight here.

A lot of what you say is rooted in the foundations of our path, and I think a lot of focus needs to be placed here. What I mean is: new people need to have a full appreciation of all the tools available to them, because that is when they are most vulnerable.

Of course, when someone starts to advance, even in simple ways, their judgment improves. However, if we are coming from a place of severe degeneration, this makes everything exponentially harder. Unfortunately, it seems like the worse off someone is, the more help they need, but they may also be prone to wasting this help...

Going further, even though all of this knowledge may be available within books or on the ToZ main pages, people don't always read, or if they do they may forget it later. I have several ideas about how to fix this, but care needs to be taken as to not inadvertently corrupt knowledge.

My point to you is that do not think you are wasting your time by explaining simple concepts when a situation calls for it. Even if you are repeating yourself, redundancy is useful for the above reasons. This goes for everyone who is advanced on a topic.

Thanks.