Re: Creatures other than demon's waging war against heaven

Yes or No replies to simplify things and "clear the air" is your
desire, not mine. Discourse is my pleasure and through it I
communicate as I see fit. There is no high horse to it, just that an
opinion remains unmodified. One is either correct or one eventually
stands corrected. Or simply, an opinion is stated and then it gathers
dust. These things are not relevant in light of Heart's Intent, so Be
and you are Known.

I reside within process, not perfection.
One is perfect in striving to Become and through Being.
Falling is Being, just as rising is Being.


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@... wrote:

You know, all you had to do was say a simple yes that was the case

or no,

that wasn't the case.
There was and is no need to get up on your high horse. Don't fall.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@...
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's

waging war

against he
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:53:37 -0000

I already covered this well.
First, succinctly stated. Then, in response.
So again...

Bottom line is I could care less if an incarnated Soul has some
angelic past or even if they deal with shifty Nordics of which there
are many, angelic, demonic, and otherwise. As for "not being taken
seriously", these forums were not created to provide former angelics
with indefinite psycho-emotional support. Speaking for myself, I
would strongly venture that those of us who do not have angelic

ties,

and We are many, do not want to hear about angel mikey and a former
angelic's incessant interactions with him. Nor does it benefit
Satanists and Hell's incarnated to simultaneously read self-

indulgent

comments about "a mind stronger than most", "amazing control",
assertions about angel killing and conversion expertise, and

offering

of assistance. I'm not here to play detective. I don't care if it's
straight up bullshit, which it stinks of, or merely odd

communication

style... it has no place in this e-group.

Both the subject matter and the communication style ran their course
long ago. And so you have my opinion once again rephrased. There are
many idle shit and fluff peddlers in the various e-groups. Be he one
of them or not, my opinion stands.

In the very near future, when the Illicit Blue through Hell's

mandate

freely act upon this sort of thing "from clarity", there will be no
discussion. Opinions are opinions, and dark blessings upon the
Satanist in accordance with the Devil's Design.



--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Thank you for attempting to clear the air. It is appreciated.

To further clear the air, your comments to Joe about his not

being

taken
seriously? Was that just in regards to his outburst and not
the 'subject'
of the outburst? Am I understanding correctly?



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:36:30 -0000

Yes, you read them wrong, as I am among those that have not read
your
entire posting history (nor joe's, etc.) in this e-group, and so

I

was not aware of your angelic history until you reacted as if I

was

addressing it. =) Nobody said "once an angelic, always an

enemy." =)

Scroll down and you will find a one sentence post of mine, a

reply

actually, that initially states my opinion quite succinctly and

the

opinion pertains to "posting content" (not some mysterious

angelic

soul history), an opinion which still stands.

That said, beyond opinions plainly stated becomes the

jurisdiction

of
His Infernal Majesty... by His Light for now... until dragon's

blue

is fully wielded.


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Yes, my wording was off. It's just a label I use to keep the
players
straight in my own head. Apologies for the confusion.

They weren't in question? Hmmm, then I guess I was reading

your

words wrong
because that's how I took it and a few others that I've

spoken to

as well
who read your posts. With that perspective, it's not odd at

all.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than

demon's

waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:16:29 -0000

It is my evolving understanding/perspective that Satan and the
original Demons were never "angels". The angelic factions
emerged to
overthrow Anu, and from this time forward, the term angel

became

strongly associated with the enemy nordics. The common ground

is

Nibiru or Nordic heritage; not angelic heritage. That said,

some

of
the enemy angelics (former enemies) do shift their perspective
and
allegiance, siding with Satan and Demons. To you

specifically, no

Satanist or Demon would make an issue about your Soul history

in

light of allegiance to Satan; the Heart speaks for itself.

It's

kind
of odd that you would bring up your angelic Soul or joe's

angelic

ties, since nobody brought them in to question in the first
place.
=)

--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Some of us know differently. Even Satan started out as an
angel. :)

Yes, it can be argued that if an 'angel' is with Satan,

then

they
aren't an
angel anymore. As I've explained previously, the continued
use
of
the word
"angel" is a tactic, nothing more. A major part of my

soul is

angelic and I
am 100% with Satan. Certain people know and understand and
accept. Others
won't and will never be able to. Father knows who's side

I'm

on
and who's
side Joseph is on and that's all that really matters.

Hail Satan
Leslie

----Original Message Follows----
From: "josephandset" <josephandset@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than
demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:54:03 -0000

"Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would understand this." Lol yah, gunna have to agree with
that.
Many
satanists (new ones, or non-experienced ones) try to bash

me

or
say
i'm some fucked up child with fantasies, but the second

they

become
experienced and can talk to the gods all of it is

confirmed by

them
and the satanists that once tried to say it was a fantasy

now

feel
bad
and want me to be their teacher (not being cocky, i'm being
truthful).
So.... once people become experienced, or atleast open

minded

they
realize the truth in my words, until then they try to make

fun

of me
the best they can (Becuase Angels are still hugely in

control

of
them).

Hail Satan


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Not that I'm going to make you see Ba.shin.go.ati but

Joe

is
telling
the
truth. Believe what you will but he is not making it

up.

Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded

spiritual

satanist
would
understand this.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "randyrackmm" <rackmm@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than
demon's
waging war
against heaven
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:24:45 -0000

LMAO. Not too nice, yet needed nonetheless :-)

Randy


--- In , "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Perhaps you are quick to perceive sarcasm in my words
b/c
you
are
aware that your archangel michael posts make it
difficult
for
any
Satanist to take you seriously.

--- In , Joe
sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

See i was always considering that a possibility,

but

most
of the
time when people say it like he did (usually it's
identical
to that)
it's sarcasm, just making sure:P

jri9vero <jri9vero@ wrote: plz don't

think

it's
sarcasm. It's reassurance in the sense that you
agreed that it's true because you always point

out

the
fallacious
elements in a post. This makes the point "true".

--- In , Joe
sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

Is that sarcasm? Better not be or somebody

needs

some
growing
up
to do, especially considering that post was made

a

while
ago:P

"BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@ wrote:
josephandset
completely agrees... that's reassuring...

--- In
, "josephandset"
<josephandset@ wrote:

Completely agreed. Good news is that your
sentence
about
needing
more
people is being fulfilled. I mean on the

ToZ

main
group, 2-
3
hundred
people have joined in the last few weeks,

and

that's just
the
ToZ.
Not
to mention all the people who are leaving
christianity and
the
forms
of it (MUCH more than the people who are
joining
satanism)
and
eventually the truth will get out more and

all

those lost
people
(well
not all, but atleast the smart open minded
ones)
will join
us.
Enemy
looses troops while we gain it. If things

keep

going the
way
they
are
on earth we'll definately win here. It's

just

up
to
the
gods
(demons)
to win their side.

Hail Satan


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

I'm glad you recognize that it's the
universe
that's at
war.
But
then
you would also know that the universe is

a

very
big
place,
and it
would be foolish to assume it's been
explored
fully, and,
quite
frankly, the demons dont have the time

to do

it.
And this
is
more
of
a scouting event, to see who would join

us,

join
them and
who
would
stay neutral until a possible victor was
clear.
Full-
scale
war is
close to breaking out, and at the moment,
i'm
sorry to
say
this,
but
our side would lose. We'd be crushed
beneath a
tidal wave
of
enemies,
there's just too many of them. We need

more

people, more
creatures to
help us.


--- In
, "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Advanced beings throughout the universe
are
very aware
of
Orion -
GF
conflict and of various factions

involved

and
their
interests.
Renegades from Nibiru aftermath, be

they

negative
warlords
or
otherwise, have already allied with

Satan

and
Demons.
One
such
warlord was contacted by another

Satanist

a
short while
ago.
The
name, if I were to mention it, would

ring

a
bell.
Although
alternative perspectives can be of

value,

[relatively
speaking}
information derived from such
communications
is
sub
par,
as it
is
solely through Demons that the Satanist
continues
to "free-
light"
indefinitely. Advanced beings that have
not
allied with
Hell
are
aware of the conflict and the potential
ramifications
of
its
outcome.
They do not need humans to tell them
[/QUOTE]that

they
may send
an
envoy to
Hell. There are plenty of "fair-

weather"

beings
out
there
observing
and influencing [to a minor degree]
without
any
regard
for
the
Titanic effort that Hell has put forth.
They
will jump
on
the
bandwagon where their interests are at
stake
and when
the
outcome
is
more certain.

You are correct; that which you suggest
does
sound far-
fetched.
And I'd have to disagree about

everyone on

the "other
boards"
being "ignorant of the truth". Seeking

the

truth and
drawing
their
own conclusions would be more accurate.

~Hail Satan~


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

Hi everyone, this is my first post on
this
board, so
please
excuse
me
if you take offense at any of this.
Recently I have been in close contact
with
a
creature
called
Azrael,
who describes himself as 'an angel of
death'.
he
describes
his
and
his people's job as escorting the

souls

of
those that
have
died
to
their various places of residence on

the

astral
(almost
like
government housing agents). Hehas a

real

problem with
Jehova
and
his
various allies trying to take his

job,

and
guide all
souls to
go
to
heaven, to their giant vortex of

energy,

and
wants
this
to
end.
So
Azrael asked me to ask you all if you
could
find
other
allies, to
go
and talk to the other races out

there on

the
astral.
I
talked
to
Andras about this, and he agreed it

was

a
pretty good
idea,
and
wants
all those that agree to send at

least 1

envoy
to
hell,
to
liase
with
him.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but

then

again, to an
outsider,
the
possibility of Satan and the demons
possibly
existing
seems
far
fetched, so please do not dismiess my
words
as idle
rambling.
The reason I am posting this ont he
advanced
meditation
board, is
that almost everyone on the other

boards

are,
no
offense
to
them,
ignorant of the truth, believing all

the

lies
that
are
fed to
them
by
an angel smart enough to hide their
identity,
and
this
job
requires
people who are very skilled at
projection
and
communication.
Well, please feel free to discuss

this,

and
more than
likely,
tear
me
apart for it!
(P.S. I apologise for the way this is
badly
worded, i
had no
idea
how
to accurately get this across)











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"Devil's Design" something about this sounds horridly wrong..


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@... wrote:

You know, all you had to do was say a simple yes that was the case

or no,

that wasn't the case.
There was and is no need to get up on your high horse. Don't fall.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@...
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's

waging war

against he
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:53:37 -0000

I already covered this well.
First, succinctly stated. Then, in response.
So again...

Bottom line is I could care less if an incarnated Soul has some
angelic past or even if they deal with shifty Nordics of which there
are many, angelic, demonic, and otherwise. As for "not being taken
seriously", these forums were not created to provide former angelics
with indefinite psycho-emotional support. Speaking for myself, I
would strongly venture that those of us who do not have angelic ties,
and We are many, do not want to hear about angel mikey and a former
angelic's incessant interactions with him. Nor does it benefit
Satanists and Hell's incarnated to simultaneously read self-indulgent
comments about "a mind stronger than most", "amazing control",
assertions about angel killing and conversion expertise, and offering
of assistance. I'm not here to play detective. I don't care if it's
straight up bullshit, which it stinks of, or merely odd communication
style... it has no place in this e-group.

Both the subject matter and the communication style ran their course
long ago. And so you have my opinion once again rephrased. There are
many idle shit and fluff peddlers in the various e-groups. Be he one
of them or not, my opinion stands.

In the very near future, when the Illicit Blue through Hell's mandate
freely act upon this sort of thing "from clarity", there will be no
discussion. Opinions are opinions, and dark blessings upon the
Satanist in accordance with the Devil's Design.



--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Thank you for attempting to clear the air. It is appreciated.

To further clear the air, your comments to Joe about his not being
taken
seriously? Was that just in regards to his outburst and not
the 'subject'
of the outburst? Am I understanding correctly?



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:36:30 -0000

Yes, you read them wrong, as I am among those that have not read
your
entire posting history (nor joe's, etc.) in this e-group, and so I
was not aware of your angelic history until you reacted as if I was
addressing it. =) Nobody said "once an angelic, always an enemy." =)
Scroll down and you will find a one sentence post of mine, a reply
actually, that initially states my opinion quite succinctly and the
opinion pertains to "posting content" (not some mysterious angelic
soul history), an opinion which still stands.

That said, beyond opinions plainly stated becomes the jurisdiction
of
His Infernal Majesty... by His Light for now... until dragon's blue
is fully wielded.


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Yes, my wording was off. It's just a label I use to keep the
players
straight in my own head. Apologies for the confusion.

They weren't in question? Hmmm, then I guess I was reading your
words wrong
because that's how I took it and a few others that I've spoken to
as well
who read your posts. With that perspective, it's not odd at all.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:16:29 -0000

It is my evolving understanding/perspective that Satan and the
original Demons were never "angels". The angelic factions
emerged to
overthrow Anu, and from this time forward, the term angel became
strongly associated with the enemy nordics. The common ground is
Nibiru or Nordic heritage; not angelic heritage. That said, some
of
the enemy angelics (former enemies) do shift their perspective
and
allegiance, siding with Satan and Demons. To you specifically, no
Satanist or Demon would make an issue about your Soul history in
light of allegiance to Satan; the Heart speaks for itself. It's
kind
of odd that you would bring up your angelic Soul or joe's angelic
ties, since nobody brought them in to question in the first
place.
=)

--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Some of us know differently. Even Satan started out as an
angel. :)

Yes, it can be argued that if an 'angel' is with Satan, then
they
aren't an
angel anymore. As I've explained previously, the continued
use
of
the word
"angel" is a tactic, nothing more. A major part of my soul is
angelic and I
am 100% with Satan. Certain people know and understand and
accept. Others
won't and will never be able to. Father knows who's side I'm
on
and who's
side Joseph is on and that's all that really matters.

Hail Satan
Leslie

----Original Message Follows----
From: "josephandset" <josephandset@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than
demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:54:03 -0000

"Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would understand this." Lol yah, gunna have to agree with
that.
Many
satanists (new ones, or non-experienced ones) try to bash me
or
say
i'm some fucked up child with fantasies, but the second they
become
experienced and can talk to the gods all of it is confirmed by
them
and the satanists that once tried to say it was a fantasy now
feel
bad
and want me to be their teacher (not being cocky, i'm being
truthful).
So.... once people become experienced, or atleast open minded
they
realize the truth in my words, until then they try to make fun
of me
the best they can (Becuase Angels are still hugely in control
of
them).

Hail Satan


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Not that I'm going to make you see Ba.shin.go.ati but Joe
is
telling
the
truth. Believe what you will but he is not making it up.

Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would
understand this.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "randyrackmm" <rackmm@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than
demon's
waging war
against heaven
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:24:45 -0000

LMAO. Not too nice, yet needed nonetheless :-)

Randy


--- In , "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Perhaps you are quick to perceive sarcasm in my words
b/c
you
are
aware that your archangel michael posts make it
difficult
for
any
Satanist to take you seriously.

--- In , Joe
sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

See i was always considering that a possibility, but
most
of the
time when people say it like he did (usually it's
identical
to that)
it's sarcasm, just making sure:P

jri9vero <jri9vero@ wrote: plz don't think
it's
sarcasm. It's reassurance in the sense that you
agreed that it's true because you always point out
the
fallacious
elements in a post. This makes the point "true".

--- In , Joe
sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

Is that sarcasm? Better not be or somebody needs
some
growing
up
to do, especially considering that post was made a
while
ago:P

"BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@ wrote:
josephandset
completely agrees... that's reassuring...

--- In
, "josephandset"
<josephandset@ wrote:

Completely agreed. Good news is that your
sentence
about
needing
more
people is being fulfilled. I mean on the ToZ
main
group, 2-
3
hundred
people have joined in the last few weeks, and
that's just
the
ToZ.
Not
to mention all the people who are leaving
christianity and
the
forms
of it (MUCH more than the people who are
joining
satanism)
and
eventually the truth will get out more and all
those lost
people
(well
not all, but atleast the smart open minded
ones)
will join
us.
Enemy
looses troops while we gain it. If things keep
going the
way
they
are
on earth we'll definately win here. It's just
up
to
the
gods
(demons)
to win their side.

Hail Satan


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

I'm glad you recognize that it's the
universe
that's at
war.
But
then
you would also know that the universe is a
very
big
place,
and it
would be foolish to assume it's been
explored
fully, and,
quite
frankly, the demons dont have the time to do
it.
And this
is
more
of
a scouting event, to see who would join us,
join
them and
who
would
stay neutral until a possible victor was
clear.
Full-
scale
war is
close to breaking out, and at the moment,
i'm
sorry to
say
this,
but
our side would lose. We'd be crushed
beneath a
tidal wave
of
enemies,
there's just too many of them. We need more
people, more
creatures to
help us.


--- In
, "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Advanced beings throughout the universe
are
very aware
of
Orion -
GF
conflict and of various factions involved
and
their
interests.
Renegades from Nibiru aftermath, be they
negative
warlords
or
otherwise, have already allied with Satan
and
Demons.
One
such
warlord was contacted by another Satanist
a
short while
ago.
The
name, if I were to mention it, would ring
a
bell.
Although
alternative perspectives can be of value,
[relatively
speaking}
information derived from such
communications
is
sub
par,
as it
is
solely through Demons that the Satanist
continues
to "free-
light"
indefinitely. Advanced beings that have
not
allied with
Hell
are
aware of the conflict and the potential
ramifications
of
its
outcome.
They do not need humans to tell them that
they
may send
an
envoy to
Hell. There are plenty of "fair-weather"
beings
out
there
observing
and influencing [to a minor degree]
without
any
regard
for
the
Titanic effort that Hell has put forth.
They
will jump
on
the
bandwagon where their interests are at
stake
and when
the
outcome
is
more certain.

You are correct; that which you suggest
does
sound far-
fetched.
And I'd have to disagree about everyone on
the "other
boards"
being "ignorant of the truth". Seeking the
truth and
drawing
their
own conclusions would be more accurate.

~Hail Satan~


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

Hi everyone, this is my first post on
this
board, so
please
excuse
me
if you take offense at any of this.
Recently I have been in close contact
with
a
creature
called
Azrael,
who describes himself as 'an angel of
death'.
he
describes
his
and
his people's job as escorting the souls
of
those that
have
died
to
their various places of residence on the
astral
(almost
like
government housing agents). Hehas a real
problem with
Jehova
and
his
various allies trying to take his job,
and
guide all
souls to
go
to
heaven, to their giant vortex of energy,
and
wants
this
to
end.
So
Azrael asked me to ask you all if you
could
find
other
allies, to
go
and talk to the other races out there on
the
astral.
I
talked
to
Andras about this, and he agreed it was
a
pretty good
idea,
and
wants
all those that agree to send at least 1
envoy
to
hell,
to
liase
with
him.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but then
again, to an
outsider,
the
possibility of Satan and the demons
possibly
existing
seems
far
fetched, so please do not dismiess my
words
as idle
rambling.
The reason I am posting this ont he
advanced
meditation
board, is
that almost everyone on the other boards
are,
no
offense
to
them,
ignorant of the truth, believing all the
lies
that
are
fed to
them
by
an angel smart enough to hide their
identity,
and
this
job
requires
people who are very skilled at
projection
and
communication.
Well, please feel free to discuss this,
and
more than
likely,
tear
me
apart for it!
(P.S. I apologise for the way this is
badly
worded, i
had no
idea
how
to accurately get this across)











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"Devil"-in the sense that it is something powerful and not to be
reckoned with. i find it suitable, as Father Satan design is his
will and overall grand scheme of things.

--- In , "randyrackmm"
<rackmm@... wrote:

"Devil's Design" something about this sounds horridly wrong..


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

You know, all you had to do was say a simple yes that was the

case

or no,
that wasn't the case.
There was and is no need to get up on your high horse. Don't

fall.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:53:37 -0000

I already covered this well.
First, succinctly stated. Then, in response.
So again...

Bottom line is I could care less if an incarnated Soul has some
angelic past or even if they deal with shifty Nordics of which

there

are many, angelic, demonic, and otherwise. As for "not being

taken

seriously", these forums were not created to provide former

angelics

with indefinite psycho-emotional support. Speaking for myself, I
would strongly venture that those of us who do not have angelic

ties,

and We are many, do not want to hear about angel mikey and a

former

angelic's incessant interactions with him. Nor does it benefit
Satanists and Hell's incarnated to simultaneously read self-

indulgent

comments about "a mind stronger than most", "amazing control",
assertions about angel killing and conversion expertise, and

offering

of assistance. I'm not here to play detective. I don't care if

it's

straight up bullshit, which it stinks of, or merely odd

communication

style... it has no place in this e-group.

Both the subject matter and the communication style ran their

course

long ago. And so you have my opinion once again rephrased. There

are

many idle shit and fluff peddlers in the various e-groups. Be he

one

of them or not, my opinion stands.

In the very near future, when the Illicit Blue through Hell's

mandate

freely act upon this sort of thing "from clarity", there will be

no

discussion. Opinions are opinions, and dark blessings upon the
Satanist in accordance with the Devil's Design.



--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Thank you for attempting to clear the air. It is appreciated.

To further clear the air, your comments to Joe about his not

being

taken
seriously? Was that just in regards to his outburst and not
the 'subject'
of the outburst? Am I understanding correctly?



----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than

demon's

waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:36:30 -0000

Yes, you read them wrong, as I am among those that have not

read

your
entire posting history (nor joe's, etc.) in this e-group, and

so I

was not aware of your angelic history until you reacted as if

I was

addressing it. =) Nobody said "once an angelic, always an

enemy." =)

Scroll down and you will find a one sentence post of mine, a

reply

actually, that initially states my opinion quite succinctly

and the

opinion pertains to "posting content" (not some mysterious

angelic

soul history), an opinion which still stands.

That said, beyond opinions plainly stated becomes the

jurisdiction

of
His Infernal Majesty... by His Light for now... until

dragon's blue

is fully wielded.


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Yes, my wording was off. It's just a label I use to keep

the

players
straight in my own head. Apologies for the confusion.

They weren't in question? Hmmm, then I guess I was

reading your

words wrong
because that's how I took it and a few others that I've

spoken to

as well
who read your posts. With that perspective, it's not odd

at all.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than

demon's

waging war
against he
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:16:29 -0000

It is my evolving understanding/perspective that Satan and

the

original Demons were never "angels". The angelic factions
emerged to
overthrow Anu, and from this time forward, the term angel

became

strongly associated with the enemy nordics. The common

ground is

Nibiru or Nordic heritage; not angelic heritage. That

said, some

of
the enemy angelics (former enemies) do shift their

perspective

and
allegiance, siding with Satan and Demons. To you

specifically, no

Satanist or Demon would make an issue about your Soul

history in

light of allegiance to Satan; the Heart speaks for itself.

It's

kind
of odd that you would bring up your angelic Soul or joe's

angelic

ties, since nobody brought them in to question in the first
place.
=)

--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Some of us know differently. Even Satan started out as

an

angel. :)

Yes, it can be argued that if an 'angel' is with Satan,

then

they
aren't an
angel anymore. As I've explained previously, the

continued

use
of
the word
"angel" is a tactic, nothing more. A major part of my

soul is

angelic and I
am 100% with Satan. Certain people know and understand

and

accept. Others
won't and will never be able to. Father knows who's

side I'm

on
and who's
side Joseph is on and that's all that really matters.

Hail Satan
Leslie

----Original Message Follows----
From: "josephandset" <josephandset@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than
demon's
waging war
against he
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:54:03 -0000

"Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded

spiritual

satanist
would understand this." Lol yah, gunna have to agree

with

that.
Many
satanists (new ones, or non-experienced ones) try to

bash me

or
say
i'm some fucked up child with fantasies, but the second

they

become
experienced and can talk to the gods all of it is

confirmed by

them
and the satanists that once tried to say it was a

fantasy now

feel
bad
and want me to be their teacher (not being cocky, i'm

being

truthful).
So.... once people become experienced, or atleast open

minded

they
realize the truth in my words, until then they try to

make fun

of me
the best they can (Becuase Angels are still hugely in

control

of
them).

Hail Satan


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Not that I'm going to make you see Ba.shin.go.ati

but Joe

is
telling
the
truth. Believe what you will but he is not making

it up.

Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded

spiritual

satanist
would
understand this.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "randyrackmm" <rackmm@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other

than

demon's
waging war
against heaven
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:24:45 -0000

LMAO. Not too nice, yet needed nonetheless :-)

Randy


--- In

, "BA.SHIN.GO

ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Perhaps you are quick to perceive sarcasm in my

words

b/c
you
are
aware that your archangel michael posts make it
difficult
for
any
Satanist to take you seriously.

--- In , Joe
sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

See i was always considering that a

possibility, but

most
of the
time when people say it like he did (usually it's
identical
to that)
it's sarcasm, just making sure:P

jri9vero <jri9vero@ wrote: plz don't

think

it's
sarcasm. It's reassurance in the sense that you
agreed that it's true because you always

point out

the
fallacious
elements in a post. This makes the

point "true".

--- In ,

Joe

sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

Is that sarcasm? Better not be or somebody

needs

some
growing
up
to do, especially considering that post was

made a

while
ago:P

"BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@ wrote:
josephandset
completely agrees... that's reassuring...

--- In
, "josephandset"
<josephandset@ wrote:

Completely agreed. Good news is that

your

sentence
about
needing
more
people is being fulfilled. I mean on

the ToZ

main
group, 2-
3
hundred
people have joined in the last few

weeks, and

that's just
the
ToZ.
Not
to mention all the people who are

leaving

christianity and
the
forms
of it (MUCH more than the people who are
joining
satanism)
and
eventually the truth will get out more

and all

those lost
people
(well
not all, but atleast the smart open

minded

ones)
will join
us.
Enemy
looses troops while we gain it. If

things keep

going the
way
they
are
on earth we'll definately win here.

It's just

up
to
the
gods
(demons)
to win their side.

Hail Satan


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

I'm glad you recognize that it's the
universe
that's at
war.
But
then
you would also know that the universe

is a

very
big
place,
and it
would be foolish to assume it's been
explored
fully, and,
quite
frankly, the demons dont have the

time to do

it.
And this
is
more
of
a scouting event, to see who would

join us,

join
them and
who
would
stay neutral until a possible victor

was

clear.
Full-
scale
war is
close to breaking out, and at the

moment,

i'm
sorry to
say
this,
but
our side would lose. We'd be crushed
beneath a
tidal wave
of
enemies,
there's just too many of them. We

need more

people, more
creatures to
help us.


--- In
, "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Advanced beings throughout the

universe

are
very aware
of
Orion -
GF
conflict and of various factions

involved

and
their
interests.
Renegades from Nibiru aftermath, be

they

negative
warlords
or
otherwise, have already allied with

Satan

and
Demons.
One
such
warlord was contacted by another

Satanist

a
short while
ago.
The
name, if I were to mention it,

would ring

a
bell.
Although
alternative perspectives can be of

value,

[relatively
speaking}
information derived from such
communications
is
sub
par,
as it
is
solely through Demons that the
[/QUOTE]Satanist

continues
to "free-
light"
indefinitely. Advanced beings that

have

not
allied with
Hell
are
aware of the conflict and the

potential

ramifications
of
its
outcome.
They do not need humans to tell

them that

they
may send
an
envoy to
Hell. There are plenty of "fair-

weather"

beings
out
there
observing
and influencing [to a minor degree]
without
any
regard
for
the
Titanic effort that Hell has put

forth.

They
will jump
on
the
bandwagon where their interests are

at

stake
and when
the
outcome
is
more certain.

You are correct; that which you

suggest

does
sound far-
fetched.
And I'd have to disagree about

everyone on

the "other
boards"
being "ignorant of the truth".

Seeking the

truth and
drawing
their
own conclusions would be more

accurate.

~Hail Satan~


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

Hi everyone, this is my first

post on

this
board, so
please
excuse
me
if you take offense at any of

this.

Recently I have been in close

contact

with
a
creature
called
Azrael,
who describes himself as 'an

angel of

death'.
he
describes
his
and
his people's job as escorting the

souls

of
those that
have
died
to
their various places of residence

on the

astral
(almost
like
government housing agents). Hehas

a real

problem with
Jehova
and
his
various allies trying to take his

job,

and
guide all
souls to
go
to
heaven, to their giant vortex of

energy,

and
wants
this
to
end.
So
Azrael asked me to ask you all if

you

could
find
other
allies, to
go
and talk to the other races out

there on

the
astral.
I
talked
to
Andras about this, and he agreed

it was

a
pretty good
idea,
and
wants
all those that agree to send at

least 1

envoy
to
hell,
to
liase
with
him.
I know this sounds far-fetched,

but then

again, to an
outsider,
the
possibility of Satan and the

demons

possibly
existing
seems
far
fetched, so please do not

dismiess my

words
as idle
rambling.
The reason I am posting this ont

he

advanced
meditation
board, is
that almost everyone on the other

boards

are,
no
offense
to
them,
ignorant of the truth, believing

all the

lies
that
are
fed to
them
by
an angel smart enough to hide

their

identity,
and
this
job
requires
people who are very skilled at
projection
and
communication.
Well, please feel free to discuss

this,

and
more than
likely,
tear
me
apart for it!
(P.S. I apologise for the way

this is

badly
worded, i
had no
idea
how
to accurately get this across)











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---Wow Man u make alot of Sense Praise to openminded New thinking yup
angels and demons are from the Same famliy what i wanna know is what
divides them, demons and angels are suppose to consist of 3 alien
groups corrupted being grey and Nordic right? wouldnt Pure Nordic be mixed
with corrupted being blood wouldnt that make them abel to Shapeshift, I
mean we live in this 3rd box and theres Alien races out there, the
world is to bored they need to see something Spiritual to Shock them
Awaken them, Also I was told Angels and demons collect energy
different, and that the black brother hood Is a group on earth who
works to hinder mand the brother hood of light works to adavance man,
any thoughts on Freemansons and all theres occult groups like the
golden dawn?



In , "josephandset"
<josephandset@... wrote:

That's really cool about the aliens physical bodies, but about Satan
never being able to trust them? That's wrong, not a lie becuase you
believe it, but wrong. If Satan and demons could NEVER trust them

why

do i A) Know some angelic souls that have been with Satan for a VERY
long time and B) Why was Set so excited (Every single time) to hear
that an angel was willing to join Satan? When angels leave .... well
angels, they leave their old physical body behind and chances are
either instantly, or until proven worthy they get a body of a demon.
You were stating how angels (not necessarily the stereotypical

aliens)

are a threat of this (with Satan trusting them) due to their

physical

bodies (atleast that's what i got out of it) so seeing as how a god
can leave their body, that threat would no longer be there.

Hail Satan

--- In

, "messagesfromtheanunnaki"

<messagesfromtheanunnaki@ wrote:

the enemy of the enemy is my friend?

could be true, could be more manipulation. but i could however

know

that the reptillians have developed a way to see the truth from

the

enemy (spiritually), this can also be applied to the grey's and
draconians. its just basic mental exercises for them.

as for those who know anything about aliens, is that they can

take

full control of thier central nervous systems, as well as

chemical

balances in thier bodies and brains, so meditation for them they

see

no need.

and with this, they can see through some, if not most of the
manipulation they are under.
because for those who want to wage a war against the enemy, all

that

energy goes to waste through manipulation and goes against them.
may not be able to see the entire truth, but they can hide as

they

can become more aware, and then wage the war.

the demons are dead against this too my knowlege as they cant

trust

any of them even if they do want to defy, because it could undo

them.

i only know this because of my own experiences with aliens, as

they

have shown me the methods they use to defy, quite handy when your
under attack.

--- In , "josephandset"
<josephandset@ wrote:

"Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would understand this." Lol yah, gunna have to agree with that.
Many
satanists (new ones, or non-experienced ones) try to bash me or

say

i'm some fucked up child with fantasies, but the second they

become

experienced and can talk to the gods all of it is confirmed by

them

and the satanists that once tried to say it was a fantasy now

feel

bad
and want me to be their teacher (not being cocky, i'm being
truthful).
So.... once people become experienced, or atleast open minded

they

realize the truth in my words, until then they try to make fun

of

me
the best they can (Becuase Angels are still hugely in control

of

them).

Hail Satan


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Not that I'm going to make you see Ba.shin.go.ati but Joe is
telling
the
truth. Believe what you will but he is not making it up.

Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would
understand this.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "randyrackmm" <rackmm@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than

demon's

waging war
against heaven
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:24:45 -0000

LMAO. Not too nice, yet needed nonetheless :-)

Randy


--- In , "BA.SHIN.GO ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Perhaps you are quick to perceive sarcasm in my words b/c

you

are
aware that your archangel michael posts make it difficult

for

any
Satanist to take you seriously.

--- In , Joe sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

See i was always considering that a possibility, but

most

of the
time when people say it like he did (usually it's

identical

to that)
it's sarcasm, just making sure:P

jri9vero <jri9vero@ wrote: plz don't think it's
sarcasm. It's reassurance in the sense that you
agreed that it's true because you always point out the
fallacious
elements in a post. This makes the point "true".

--- In , Joe

sdofhsdofh

<josephandset@ wrote:

Is that sarcasm? Better not be or somebody needs

some

growing
up
to do, especially considering that post was made a

while

ago:P

"BA.SHIN.GO ATI" <royalhunter50@ wrote:
josephandset
completely agrees... that's reassuring...

--- In
, "josephandset"
<josephandset@ wrote:

Completely agreed. Good news is that your

sentence

about
needing
more
people is being fulfilled. I mean on the ToZ

main

group, 2-
3
hundred
people have joined in the last few weeks, and
that's just
the
ToZ.
Not
to mention all the people who are leaving
christianity and
the
forms
of it (MUCH more than the people who are joining
satanism)
and
eventually the truth will get out more and all
those lost
people
(well
not all, but atleast the smart open minded ones)
will join
us.
Enemy
looses troops while we gain it. If things keep
going the
way
they
are
on earth we'll definately win here. It's just up

to

the
gods
(demons)
to win their side.

Hail Satan


--- In

, "Joseph

Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

I'm glad you recognize that it's the universe
that's at
war.
But
then
you would also know that the universe is a

very

big
place,
and it
would be foolish to assume it's been explored
fully, and,
quite
frankly, the demons dont have the time to do

it.

And this
is
more
of
a scouting event, to see who would join us,

join

them and
who
would
stay neutral until a possible victor was

clear.

Full-
scale
war is
close to breaking out, and at the moment, i'm
sorry to
say
this,
but
our side would lose. We'd be crushed beneath a
tidal wave
of
enemies,
there's just too many of them. We need more
people, more
creatures to
help us.


--- In
, "BA.SHIN.GO
ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Advanced beings throughout the universe are
very aware
of
Orion -
GF
conflict and of various factions involved

and

their
interests.
Renegades from Nibiru aftermath, be they
negative
warlords
or
otherwise, have already allied with Satan

and

Demons.
One
such
warlord was contacted by another Satanist a
short while
ago.
The
name, if I were to mention it, would ring a
bell.
Although
alternative perspectives can be of value,
[relatively
speaking}
information derived from such communications
[/QUOTE]is

sub
par,
as it
is
solely through Demons that the Satanist
continues
to "free-
light"
indefinitely. Advanced beings that have not
allied with
Hell
are
aware of the conflict and the potential
ramifications
of
its
outcome.
They do not need humans to tell them that

they

may send
an
envoy to
Hell. There are plenty of "fair-weather"

beings

out
there
observing
and influencing [to a minor degree] without

any

regard
for
the
Titanic effort that Hell has put forth. They
will jump
on
the
bandwagon where their interests are at stake
and when
the
outcome
is
more certain.

You are correct; that which you suggest does
sound far-
fetched.
And I'd have to disagree about everyone on
the "other
boards"
being "ignorant of the truth". Seeking the
truth and
drawing
their
own conclusions would be more accurate.

~Hail Satan~


--- In
, "Joseph
Luke
Swift"
<IH8WHIT@ wrote:

Hi everyone, this is my first post on this
board, so
please
excuse
me
if you take offense at any of this.
Recently I have been in close contact with

a

creature
called
Azrael,
who describes himself as 'an angel of

death'.

he
describes
his
and
his people's job as escorting the souls of
those that
have
died
to
their various places of residence on the
astral
(almost
like
government housing agents). Hehas a real
problem with
Jehova
and
his
various allies trying to take his job, and
guide all
souls to
go
to
heaven, to their giant vortex of energy,

and

wants
this
to
end.
So
Azrael asked me to ask you all if you

could

find
other
allies, to
go
and talk to the other races out there on

the

astral.
I
talked
to
Andras about this, and he agreed it was a
pretty good
idea,
and
wants
all those that agree to send at least 1

envoy

to
hell,
to
liase
with
him.
I know this sounds far-fetched, but then
again, to an
outsider,
the
possibility of Satan and the demons

possibly

existing
seems
far
fetched, so please do not dismiess my

words

as idle
rambling.
The reason I am posting this ont he

advanced

meditation
board, is
that almost everyone on the other boards

are,

no
offense
to
them,
ignorant of the truth, believing all the

lies

that
are
fed to
them
by
an angel smart enough to hide their

identity,

and
this
job
requires
people who are very skilled at projection

and

communication.
Well, please feel free to discuss this,

and

more than
likely,
tear
me
apart for it!
(P.S. I apologise for the way this is

badly

worded, i
had no
idea
how
to accurately get this across)











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--- I wouldnt say Satan started out an Angel I would say he was
reborn in a life time as an angel because of the Self destorying Seed
of Jehovah Jehovah basically if the vortext that says if i cant have
it nobody can basically Levaithan is the Mother/Father of the first
Angel Lucifer/Set its like How Diana is brother and mother of
lucifer everything adds up dont juss be satanist be Chaos its self,
Take from everything use the bible against christians make their
wrose fears come true, /Satan/Set is the First, to be



the first angel juss means to be the first messneger if u look in the
lovecraft it says NYARLATHOTEP is Soul messnger of the gods, the
problem with gods comming to earth is they have to lower them self to
come her lower their energy they dont even know how their powers are
gonna work on earth till they get here, Lucifer is the unverise
manifested, he Speak witht he unverise He didnt Seek to dethrone good
he seeked to learn is vampiric Essence the Unverise is the biggest
vampire if u look at the elohim, the Main god Is 7 if u cut of the
head or you head is at ur Feet u get 6 the most Anicent satanism like
Red Book of Appin you can find it on the net this is some of the
darkest things i have seen,I say that Satanist Should go into the
church and curse them thir be goats in a feld of Sheep the goats
horns Show Satans Pay back they Show our Mighty Pay back u see sheep
will never take whats theres as goats we Wait to be Reborn as
Serpents and Strike, If would be nice if we all did meditation and
rituals at the same time, Samael Is the darkness of Lucifer, Azazel
is Said to be both Moloch and Samael, Azazel is underated and
missunderstood, the gods dont tell man everything they leave it up to
you to figure out who is is who and what is what, But Anyways its
time for change to reshape reality If every Satanist unites this can
happen,to me Jehovahs is an illusion Sent to earth to fool ppl to me
Jehovah is juss the trick of Satan the Host body Satan, When Lucifer
is humble hes goat When Hes reborn hes A serpent, If u look at the
elements and the gods there is 4 truths and 4 illusions Jesus and
other gods would be the illusions host bodies of the 4 princes the 4
princes of Hell are one, they all add up to Pan As Pan is all
elements,

When the devil is balanced from Earth to hell all is well is Hell,To
me Horus and Set and Lucifer and Satan, Juss different incarnations,
I feel that all the higher gods ppl know about have juss alot of
different names for the same being and of course your gonna feel the
two enities are totally different cause they are different elements
and asspects i feel the battle of Horus and Set Show how 1 man can be
so complexed even if hes a god he speand his whole existance trying
to figure out him self anyways Juss thought i would drop a note

but my point is Lucifer Only was reborn as gods Angel the same way
many demons have came into the enemy famlies, I feel that after this
war witht the trinity the bigger war Starts the Choronzon cant hold
off our enemies forever theres a reason Lucifer wants man to become
perfect but theres a reason he sends the illusion of jehovah and
lowers him self to level of man and Sleeps on earth, Personally I
have a very personal War with Michael I feel Lucifer hates him the
most To me Christ Jesus is juss the Scarfice he shed blood to make it
easier for Magicans to do what they do, i mean he was a black magican
and i have had a demon tell me he was alive and did do things, but
thats one of the mysteries we all Know Jesus was Evil we all know he
did black magick and that He give his Soul to the devil If
Jehovah/Yahweh is the False god and illusion then he is juss a host
body of Satan, Jehovah seems more like a shaman host body that rose
to power when the great old ones where sleeping basically When Satans
kingdom comes Jehovah despears, What is this groups thoughts on
Apophis and the Nordic Serpent Yamir? what is this groups thouthts on
Chorozon


In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@... wrote:

Some of us know differently. Even Satan started out as an

angel. :)

Yes, it can be argued that if an 'angel' is with Satan, then they

aren't an

angel anymore. As I've explained previously, the continued use of

the word

"angel" is a tactic, nothing more. A major part of my soul is

angelic and I

am 100% with Satan. Certain people know and understand and

accept. Others

won't and will never be able to. Father knows who's side I'm on

and who's

side Joseph is on and that's all that really matters.

Hail Satan
Leslie

----Original Message Follows----
From: "josephandset" <josephandset@...
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's

waging war

against he
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:54:03 -0000

"Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded Zevist
would understand this." Lol yah, gunna have to agree with that. Many
satanists (new ones, or non-experienced ones) try to bash me or say
i'm some fucked up child with fantasies, but the second they become
experienced and can talk to the gods all of it is confirmed by them
and the satanists that once tried to say it was a fantasy now feel

bad

and want me to be their teacher (not being cocky, i'm being

truthful).

So.... once people become experienced, or atleast open minded they
realize the truth in my words, until then they try to make fun of me
the best they can (Becuase Angels are still hugely in control of

them).

Hail Satan


--- In , "Leslie *"
<shortcake4203@ wrote:

Not that I'm going to make you see Ba.shin.go.ati but Joe is

telling

the
truth. Believe what you will but he is not making it up.

Not all angels are of the enemy. An open minded spiritual

satanist

would
understand this.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "randyrackmm" <rackmm@
Reply-To:
To:
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Creatures other than demon's
waging war
against heaven
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:24:45 -0000

LMAO. Not too nice, yet needed nonetheless :-)

Randy


--- In , "BA.SHIN.GO ATI"
<royalhunter50@ wrote:

Perhaps you are quick to perceive sarcasm in my words b/c you

are

aware that your archangel michael posts make it difficult for

any

Satanist to take you seriously.

--- In , Joe sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

See i was always considering that a possibility, but most

of the

time when people say it like he did (usually it's identical

to that)

it's sarcasm, just making sure:P

jri9vero <jri9vero@ wrote: plz don't think it's
sarcasm. It's reassurance in the sense that you
agreed that it's true because you always point out the

fallacious

elements in a post. This makes the point "true".

--- In , Joe sdofhsdofh
<josephandset@ wrote:

Is that sarcasm? Better not be or somebody needs some