Question Of Love?

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...;
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Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:01:39 AM

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:27:06 AM

From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: ; anandbon@... <anandbon@...;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:31:36 AM

Why dont you enlighten me then? I deem it you cant explain it to me then.

I question things, Why get offended? Questioning and Curiosity is normal, Are you planning to flame at me Go on. For i simply asked questions lol
From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  Why dont you enlighten me then? I deem it you cant explain it to me then.

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 5:11:58 AM

How do you know what Satan does or does not know? And how do you know that omniscience is not possible. You have made the claim so the burden of proof is upon you. As you are passing your opinion here as some absolute fact.  Evidence please.
From: Raven Lythrum <lilylavycrowley@...
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:14:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
   
 Even Father Satan himself does not know everything....
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
  From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
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Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:35:43 AM
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...;
To: ; anandbon@... <anandbon@...;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:31:36 AM
From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:27:06 AM

Words are Limited to express oneself, Be it my tone appeared offending or commanding,demanding and felt superior and you may have felt Who the hell is this guy who questions my family, I understand that i will watch my words carefully but simply deeming me to switch group and such is however a different story. I Got a bit Angry back there but now i forgot about it, Now then the Question is from my observation when advancing i was straight i despised Gays, I never looked at that way but lately i look at it with different eyes and also take it into consideration i suppose it is the advancement of the soul in certain ways, However Why Would a God would want to be an Soulmate ( husband,wife) with an Human, Ok Gods can make no problem in relationship,we humans will cause problems why do they choose it that way? I suspect there is some good reason or just a matter of prefference and Choice, From my understanding we humans and nordics have free will and will choose whom to be with, whom to worship, whom to love etc, I ask this Question of God and Human Love relation to a bigger picture aspect for i have once been in such strange confusing matter with an Certain Goddess whom you 2 and from the Groups know her Very well, I simply am Confused, But however i have came to an Understanding be it some mighty Goddess or God a Human has a Right to decline and choose as well, That is Freedom of choice and Satan stands up for it, I do not know what to ask i forgot bout it, But well just keep in mind One can Reject and Decline whatsoever request comes by and be it have an responsibility for ones action as well.

I also advice do not answer for others and that applies to Gods,Satan etc..I do not know what goes in Pops brain nor even the slightest hint of what he thinks,So making such statements someone might get overreactive and such,Speaking of Things one do not know fully is foolish in my opinion so in destruction Rituals I shut up, Why? Because i dont know much about Destruction Ritual nor how Sigil making and Sigils work in a Very Detailed Manner, But i will always question question Question, I will even question some of the gods actions,Questioning is not bad for it will be an act of unenlightened one asking for enlightence do not get me i am opposing it, nor i am attacking you with words.

This is like you'd ask "why would a teacher spend time with the pupils?? A pupil knows but nothing while the teacher is so advanced! How could a teacher spend so much time with someone that's so inferior to him/her" Or even closer "why would a mother spend such a lot of time raising her kids and teaching them everything they need to know to survive and take the lead of their own lives?! She is so capable compared to them, why would she even approach her kids? They're but idiots and can't do a thing" Everything is so clear and obvious here..
And why her (i suppose this was the question). Well maybe because she's got a better understanding. Maybe because she's much more open. It's pretty clear that the Gods won't take one to the next level if he/she is not ready. It seems like she was ready for this.
Oh, and as about sex, i don't believe they do it with us just to get their pleasure, and then to go back to their business. It has explained for so many times that sex with Demons has a great spiritual impact on us. They care about our advancement. If it wouldn't have been the case, they wouldn't have came back for us. They spend time with us because they want us just as strong and potent as they are. 
Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 05:27, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

To be an Soulmate with a Gentile, With a Human..Why those of Enlightened ones want to stick with the Unenlightened? Truly many things? Bur first of all Why you? Why such things exist? What are their way of thinking of this matter? I also remember why Demons love having sex with Human why? 
We are Degenerated Beings,Inferior to Nordic people,But have potential to be greater or equal i suppose..still its confusing

Good Point, What About Lovers, For Example if one is commited to an Certain goddess i recall that in the necromonicon about any Male commited with Ishtar is forbidden to mate with another etc(this may be an Allegory)but also note that Most Demons are Monogamous., So if that is the  Case can one Divorce,or seperate from that Relationship by doing Munka, Detachment etc?
So Far I believe i have hampered love life, and many wierd things happened, i will see the truth one day.
Just is it possible  to Divorce?

I don't like it , I want 1 on 1 permanency with my current Relationship and want no problems from all outside sources, So i just made up my Mind,Perhaps i should Do an Standart Ritual and Talk to Father Satan, Remember i mentioned i will complain to Pops, I never did..I just forgot bout it and over it, Big time.
But something is Off, I do not know what is happening but however as i mentioned before a Certain goddess, Personal thing happened but somehow she enjoyed it very much, while i enjoyed it but it didnt feel right, it felt sisterly or friendly,motherly definitely did not feel like a lovers, when i made up my mind i felt a knot on my front extension of the throat chakra and heart chakra, i will auto visualize her Saddened, I thought i made it clear and when i was having personal thing with my current lover, My Current Lover felt an Electrifying pressence enter her, Crazy thing happened, which surprised me to no end... I thought i dealt with this but apparently not i do not know, I've asked People from the Groups for help and Asked them questions and even some of them asked the Gods an Answer for me but nobody figured it out, I myself do not know much either. And from what i have read that Demons can be Very Very Jealous and i ..well that is intriguing i dont want problems for myself and Be it I break some Demons heart by seperating i do not know what happened in the past, Former Vows etc, But present me is me, Past is past Be it I have been not fair, For i shall bear Punishment or take Responsibility for my Action one way or another if it will settle things up,But Not Through this Relationship i want it to be settled in something different.Aagh -.-.

Any tips?

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...;
To: ;
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?
Sent: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:10:07 AM

May I suggest going back and reading EVERY SINGLE PAGE of the TOZ website and all websites listed by the HP's? Study the whole TOZ site. Not half of it. Not a quarter. Not a third. Gain ALL the knowledge from it you can. And than go in search of more on the other websites. I don't say this to be insulting. But there is knowledge on every single one of those pages on the TOZ. And some of it can be used for answering OTHER questions not related to the topic of the page. One page can answer as many as six totally unrelated different questions. (I've had that happen to me before while reading it.) So I don't say this to be insulting. I really don't. I say this so you can heighten your knowledge. Read and learn ALL that you can.
Now. When I speak of gods, I don't JUST speak of goetic demons. I speak of anyone who reached magnum opus as a human and made the switch into godhood. They are ALSO succubus's and incubus's. Not just Nordics and other types of gods/demons. There are also legions lesser demons under each of the 72 gods. So there are MANY succubus/incubus.
And it IS possible for a human to have a goetic demon as a soulmate or a husband/wife. For example, if you read the TOZ, it says Azazel himself took a human wife 10,000 years ago.
"Although there are a few accounts of Azazel's being married to various Goddesses, this is inaccurate. Azazel took a human wife some 10,000 years ago."

Now, as for why both his mothers. She was overjoyed when I told her that I thought of her as his mother as well. And though the connection between them is not by blood, it's just as real because she is my wife. And she has sympathized with me through my entire pregnancy in the ways that my own husband never could because he can't UNDERSTAND it the way she can. She gave birth to children as a human. So she knows. So for all these reasons including the simple reason that we are married, I would NEVER call her a succubus because she doesn't fit that connotation. She fits the connotation of a wife.
She has been with me and watched over me for three lifetimes. She is a warrior for Father Satan and the gods. She is a gorgeous kind sensitive loving woman. Spunky, dark, feline, grounded, and a bit sarcastic and definitely witty :D. And I adore her in the same soul deep way that I adore my husband. She chose me because she was attracted to my soul. To who I REALLY am deep inside. And out of a crowd of a thousand women, if I knew of her existence from the very beginning, I would search that crowd till I found her and would not give up until I did. She is part of the half that completes me. Brian is the other. Though I find happiness in myself, there is just a certain soul deep completeness that comes from both of them that I could not possibly gain anywhere else. It feels as if my heart has ALWAYS been large enough to accommodate them both equally :)
I have learned from her that they do not view our souls in the same way that we do. They see the degradation of the human soul and how it has degenerated over time. But they also see our POTENTIAL. They see what we COULD be. And they are attracted to that but not only to that, but to US. And they love who we TRULY are. The little annoying pesky things that pop up every now and again are practically irrelevant, unless it's something that you need to change for your advancement. Than it becomes relevant. She chose me because she saw my soul and how it linked and matched hers and how both would fit together. She really thought about it hard. And I guess when looking at the big picture she liked what she saw. Because when I asked her to become mine and Brian's wife, she said yes. :) And it's not just me. Brian completes a part of her as well. We all three complete each other. She also likes watching me grow. Watching me figure things out and advance :) It's fascinating to her because everyone gets to godhead differently. So to watch a human go through the change and already being on the other side of it is a fascinating thing for her. (She's got a cat personality like me. So we often find the same things fascinating :D)
As for why relationships such as this exist, I believe this exists for different reasons for different people. It COULD very well be that some people don't have a succubus or incubus at all. Some may not want one. Some choose to seek one out. I can only speak of what I know personally though. 
My spirit wife is with me for many reasons. One, because it's sexually necessary for BOTH of us, lol. And Two, (which ties in with #1) because it's necessary for my spiritual advancement. That's a part of it as well. When you have sex on the astral, it advances you in ways spiritually that you cannot achieve with a fellow human being. It feels different. I'm not sure it what ways. But it's different and satisfying in a way that I just can't possibly explain. But I also know that she feels the same powerful soul to soul connection that I feel with her. Another reason she is with me. In the end, for me and my wife, it comes down to love. Not power. Not knowledge. And even though advancement is a part of it, in the end, it all comes down to the fact that we love each other. And that is why we are together. Some aspects of the relationship are not so different from a human/human relationship. She is one of the biggest part's of my life and is more often times than not, more real than the world I live in. lol.   |
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From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To:
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  To be an Soulmate with a Gentile, With a Human..Why those of Enlightened ones want to stick with the Unenlightened? Truly many things? Bur first of all Why you? Why such things exist? What are their way of thinking of this matter? I also remember why Demons love having sex with Human why? 
We are Degenerated Beings,Inferior to Nordic people,But have potential to be greater or equal i suppose..still its confusing

You don't make sense to me. And lemme explain you why..
First, let's see why do people divorce. Is it because they are so happy and satisfied and fulfilled together? Is it because they're such a perfect match? Obviously not. Many think that if there is physical attraction they can ignore any other problem or un-match between them. If this works, it's only for a short time. The physical attraction lowers in time and if they don't have other things to keep them together, they'll divorce. This is just an example. There are many other reasons why people do divorce and you know them very well.. I don't need to go in detail here. 
Now let's have a look to a God-human relationship. It's clear that it is not the human who chooses the God, but the vice-versa. And I believe a God won't choose a human by the way he/she looks. They go much dipper than that. I mean, if i have the ability to read a person and find out pretty everything about him/her, then i think Gods are proficient with this. They are wise and they have experience. They have no reason to choose someone they see they don't match. So if the God who comes to you fits you in all ways, we can assume you two won't experience what those who divorce after 3 months of marriage do. You match perfectly. So you are happy. Now, why would someone want to break up with such a partner? It's exactly the kind of 'perfect relationship' you talked about few days ago. I don't know about you, but i would most certainly stay with him forever. I wouldn't want to 'divorce' him. 
Also, Gods are the best in sex. As Pythia explained, if someone has sex with a Demon for a longer period of time (let's say like one year - though i think this differs from person to person and also on how often they have sex), chances are that that person won't be satisfied by a human anymore. Demons, as they come to you astrally, can easily reach and stimulate the G point in their female partners and the prostate in their male partners, which results in full and powerful orgasms. They also love sex. 
Then they can help you tremendously in your spiritual advancement. 
And there are many other things. Now, i think you understand why you make no sense to me when you talk about 'divorcing a God lover'
Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 06:43, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Good Point, What About Lovers, For Example if one is commited to an Certain goddess i recall that in the necromonicon about any Male commited with Ishtar is forbidden to mate with another etc(this may be an Allegory)but also note that Most Demons are Monogamous., So if that is the  Case can one Divorce,or seperate from that Relationship by doing Munka, Detachment etc?
So Far I believe i have hampered love life, and many wierd things happened, i will see the truth one day.
Just is it possible  to Divorce?

Are You talking about Hagenti?

ofc one will choose ones partner by looking at what kind of a person she or he is and such,not by mere oh u look sexy lez marry attitude is shortlived, Tommy it just doesnt fit with me thats all.
From: Thomas Schweitzer <thomas_schweitzer66@...
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  You don't make sense to me. And lemme explain you why..
First, let's see why do people divorce. Is it because they are so happy and satisfied and fulfilled together? Is it because they're such a perfect match? Obviously not. Many think that if there is physical attraction they can ignore any other problem or un-match between them. If this works, it's only for a short time. The physical attraction lowers in time and if they don't have other things to keep them together, they'll divorce. This is just an example. There are many other reasons why people do divorce and you know them very well.. I don't need to go in detail here. 
Now let's have a look to a God-human relationship. It's clear that it is not the human who chooses the God, but the vice-versa. And I believe a God won't choose a human by the way he/she looks. They go much dipper than that. I mean, if i have the ability to read a person and find out pretty everything about him/her, then i think Gods are proficient with this. They are wise and they have experience. They have no reason to choose someone they see they don't match. So if the God who comes to you fits you in all ways, we can assume you two won't experience what those who divorce after 3 months of marriage do. You match perfectly. So you are happy. Now, why would someone want to break up with such a partner? It's exactly the kind of 'perfect relationship' you talked about few days ago. I don't know about you, but i would most certainly stay with him forever. I wouldn't want to 'divorce' him. 
Also, Gods are the best in sex. As Pythia explained, if someone has sex with a Demon for a longer period of time (let's say like one year - though i think this differs from person to person and also on how often they have sex), chances are that that person won't be satisfied by a human anymore. Demons, as they come to you astrally, can easily reach and stimulate the G point in their female partners and the prostate in their male partners, which results in full and powerful orgasms. They also love sex. 
Then they can help you tremendously in your spiritual advancement. 
And there are many other things. Now, i think you understand why you make no sense to me when you talk about 'divorcing a God lover'
Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 06:43, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Good Point, What About Lovers, For Example if one is commited to an Certain goddess i recall that in the necromonicon about any Male commited with Ishtar is forbidden to mate with another etc(this may be an Allegory)but also note that Most Demons are Monogamous., So if that is the  Case can one Divorce,or seperate from that Relationship by doing Munka, Detachment etc?
So Far I believe i have hampered love life, and many wierd things happened, i will see the truth one day.
Just is it possible  to Divorce?

As i said, it was an example. When i was younger, I've chosen partners because they were hot. I can't be the only one haha. The good part is that i learnt my lesson.
And that was not the point of my message. My point was that humans sometimes chose wrongly. Humans sometimes are not honest. Humans sometimes don't know what they want and need.... This is not the case with a God
And after all, why are you still with her if you don't fit? (Or you already separated?)

Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 07:40, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

ofc one will choose ones partner by looking at what kind of a person she or he is and such,not by mere oh u look sexy lez marry attitude is shortlived, Tommy it just doesnt fit with me thats all.
From: Thomas Schweitzer <[ email redacted ]
To: "" <
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  You don't make sense to me. And lemme explain you why..
First, let's see why do people divorce. Is it because they are so happy and satisfied and fulfilled together? Is it because they're such a perfect match? Obviously not. Many think that if there is physical attraction they can ignore any other problem or un-match between them. If this works, it's only for a short time. The physical attraction lowers in time and if they don't have other things to keep them together, they'll divorce. This is just an example. There are many other reasons why people do divorce and you know them very well.. I don't need to go in detail here. 
Now let's have a look to a God-human relationship. It's clear that it is not the human who chooses the God, but the vice-versa. And I believe a God won't choose a human by the way he/she looks. They go much dipper than that. I mean, if i have the ability to read a person and find out pretty everything about him/her, then i think Gods are proficient with this. They are wise and they have experience. They have no reason to choose someone they see they don't match. So if the God who comes to you fits you in all ways, we can assume you two won't experience what those who divorce after 3 months of marriage do. You match perfectly. So you are happy. Now, why would someone want to break up with such a partner? It's exactly the kind of 'perfect relationship' you talked about few days ago. I don't know about you, but i would most certainly stay with him forever. I wouldn't want to 'divorce' him. 
Also, Gods are the best in sex. As Pythia explained, if someone has sex with a Demon for a longer period of time (let's say like one year - though i think this differs from person to person and also on how often they have sex), chances are that that person won't be satisfied by a human anymore. Demons, as they come to you astrally, can easily reach and stimulate the G point in their female partners and the prostate in their male partners, which results in full and powerful orgasms. They also love sex. 
Then they can help you tremendously in your spiritual advancement. 
And there are many other things. Now, i think you understand why you make no sense to me when you talk about 'divorcing a God lover'
Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 06:43, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Good Point, What About Lovers, For Example if one is commited to an Certain goddess i recall that in the necromonicon about any Male commited with Ishtar is forbidden to mate with another etc(this may be an Allegory)but also note that Most Demons are Monogamous., So if that is the  Case can one Divorce,or seperate from that Relationship by doing Munka, Detachment etc?
So Far I believe i have hampered love life, and many wierd things happened, i will see the truth one day.
Just is it possible  to Divorce?

i dont know but i feel severe knot on my throat chakra(front extension) right now
From: Thomas Schweitzer <thomas_schweitzer66@...
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  As i said, it was an example. When i was younger, I've chosen partners because they were hot. I can't be the only one haha. The good part is that i learnt my lesson.
And that was not the point of my message. My point was that humans sometimes chose wrongly. Humans sometimes are not honest. Humans sometimes don't know what they want and need.... This is not the case with a God
And after all, why are you still with her if you don't fit? (Or you already separated?)

Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 07:40, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

ofc one will choose ones partner by looking at what kind of a person she or he is and such,not by mere oh u look sexy lez marry attitude is shortlived, Tommy it just doesnt fit with me thats all.
From: Thomas Schweitzer <[ email redacted ]
To: "" <
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  You don't make sense to me. And lemme explain you why..
First, let's see why do people divorce. Is it because they are so happy and satisfied and fulfilled together? Is it because they're such a perfect match? Obviously not. Many think that if there is physical attraction they can ignore any other problem or un-match between them. If this works, it's only for a short time. The physical attraction lowers in time and if they don't have other things to keep them together, they'll divorce. This is just an example. There are many other reasons why people do divorce and you know them very well.. I don't need to go in detail here. 
Now let's have a look to a God-human relationship. It's clear that it is not the human who chooses the God, but the vice-versa. And I believe a God won't choose a human by the way he/she looks. They go much dipper than that. I mean, if i have the ability to read a person and find out pretty everything about him/her, then i think Gods are proficient with this. They are wise and they have experience. They have no reason to choose someone they see they don't match. So if the God who comes to you fits you in all ways, we can assume you two won't experience what those who divorce after 3 months of marriage do. You match perfectly. So you are happy. Now, why would someone want to break up with such a partner? It's exactly the kind of 'perfect relationship' you talked about few days ago. I don't know about you, but i would most certainly stay with him forever. I wouldn't want to 'divorce' him. 
Also, Gods are the best in sex. As Pythia explained, if someone has sex with a Demon for a longer period of time (let's say like one year - though i think this differs from person to person and also on how often they have sex), chances are that that person won't be satisfied by a human anymore. Demons, as they come to you astrally, can easily reach and stimulate the G point in their female partners and the prostate in their male partners, which results in full and powerful orgasms. They also love sex. 
Then they can help you tremendously in your spiritual advancement. 
And there are many other things. Now, i think you understand why you make no sense to me when you talk about 'divorcing a God lover'
Hail Satan!
Pe 11-dec.-2012, la 06:43, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Good Point, What About Lovers, For Example if one is commited to an Certain goddess i recall that in the necromonicon about any Male commited with Ishtar is forbidden to mate with another etc(this may be an Allegory)but also note that Most Demons are Monogamous., So if that is the  Case can one Divorce,or seperate from that Relationship by doing Munka, Detachment etc?
So Far I believe i have hampered love life, and many wierd things happened, i will see the truth one day.
Just is it possible  to Divorce?