I heard theres a difference between Luciferian & Zevists...So I'm curious to know is the any difference between the two? & if so whats the difference
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You need to be specific because there are many different forms of Satanism and Luciferianism that have completely different beliefs from each other.
There are Atheistic Zevists who don't believe Satan is real, there are Zevists (ourselves) who believe Satan is an ancient Pagan God and practice power meditation, there are Traditional Zevists who believe in the Christian version of Satan, there are more esoteric types of Zevists which use the Qliphoth, there are Anti-Cosmic Zevists like the Temple of the Black Light e.t.c.
Similarly, there are Gnostic Luciferians, Theistic Luciferians, Atheistic Luciferians, Pagan Luciferians e.t.c. all of whom believe completely different things from each other.
Satanic Avenger 666 wrote:View source You need to be specific because there are many different forms of Satanism and Luciferianism that have completely different beliefs from each other.
There are Atheistic Zevists who don't believe Satan is real, there are Zevists (ourselves) who believe Satan is an ancient Pagan God and practice power meditation, there are Traditional Zevists who believe in the Christian version of Satan, there are more esoteric types of Zevists which use the Qliphoth, there are Anti-Cosmic Zevists like the Temple of the Black Light e.t.c.
Similarly, there are Gnostic Luciferians, Theistic Luciferians, Atheistic Luciferians, Pagan Luciferians e.t.c. all of whom believe completely different things from each other.
You guys save me the trouble of asking this same question, thanks!
I would like to ask for slight elaboration on Theistic Luciferians though. The concepts and ideas seem almost identical, yet a lot of the occult and spiritual information often seems to come from Qliphoth and alchemy from the enemy. This also appears to be the case for some so called Zevists which really confuses me because this creates a point in which they could (in theory) become identical because some Zevists consider Lucifer as Satan, while some Spiritual Luciferians believe the same thing.
I probably shouldn't think about it too much because I can't imagine there is such a thing any true Zevism outside of the ToZ, yet I do wonder if some Zevists match our teachings close enough that they could be considered in some capacity allies. Is this wishful thinking? Is it impossible? I can't help but ask myself thrse questions given my empathetic nature.
Invictvs wrote: Theistic Luciferians like most other Luciferians usually don't believe Satan and Lucifer are the same. Their information about Lucifer either comes from Greek/Roman tradition or from Gnosticism. Some Gnostic ones even believe that Satan is Jewhova and Lucifer is Jesus and Lucifer-Christos (as they call him sometimes) is the good guy. So they can be considered as borderline Christians too.
The only Luciferian that gets his information from the Qliphoth is Michael W. Ford, and he's considered controversial and atypical among Luciferians, so that many of them don't see him as a true Luciferian.
Short story about "Zevism's": There's no Zevists outside ToZ. All others who call themselves Zevism's are ripoff fakes. You can understand this if you look at how the title "Zevist" came to be:
Back in 2002 when ToZ was some months old, HP Pythia was a Traditional Zevist and called herself a Traditional Zevist. She was learning more and communicating with Satan and getting info from Satan that was different from what typical Traditional Zevists believed. So, she decided after checking with Satan to call her new form of Satanism "Zevism" to differentiate it from other forms of Satanism, as it was turning out to be unique and distinct. This was very controversial and most of her fellow Traditional Zevists disagreed and wanted her to keep calling it "Traditional Zevism".
For about 5-6 years, only ToZ Zevists called themselves Zevists. But after that time, ToZ became very popular and some fake Zevists who didn't even agree with ToZ and who even attacked ToZ started calling themselves Zevists too. But they are fakes, as most of them don't practice power meditation or other practices which makes Zevists for what they are.
In short, those who call themselves "Zevists" but don't agree with ToZ simply stole the title "Zevist" from ToZ, as HP Pythia is the first who came up with it under Satan's direction.
That is very interesting! Pythia has made achieved unfathomable milestones. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.