What is the order of the bijas to be used and in what order? Root to crown? Crown to root? What bijas are allocated to the 8 chakras?
What chakra is laum, vaum, raum, aum, haum, thaum, saum, yaum, gaum, maum, mana, is satanama used, what is the new discovered order and usage of the bija mantras, the spiritual medicine of Mageson666, Ave Satanas
Hi Savitar,
Big question here. For SAUM, do you vibrate (as in the word snake) or hiss the 'S'?
What are your experiences with either?
Savitar wrote: winragefilled666 wrote: If you don't mind mind me asking.
Is there a mantra that could be used to purge phlegm/kapha which obstructs the mind/heart(in chinese medicine). Causing mental problems.You have several options when it comes to fighting mental dullness and the kapha energy that is usually behind it:
-Most of the Fire natured mantras work for this purpose. My number one recommendation would be solar mantras such as Suryae, SAUM (with extra emphasis on the U sound) or Hrim due to the fact, that the Sun is sattvic in nature: it creates tranquility, calm, clean and balanced state of mind along with removing the subtle phlegm.
Try vibrating SAUM to the point between your two eyebrows. (It's a marma point, that connects into the 6th and regulates the flow of Prana.-RAUM Meditation: It's based on fire energy mantra, creates an ascending flow of energy, but balances it at the end. It removes phlegm from all chakras, therefore the whole mind.
-King & Queen type of workings, or the Lucfer's Grail Breathing exercise: Connecting the Solar to the 6th Chakra means, that there is an interchange of rejuvenative energy from the 6th to the solar, and a heating, purifying one from solar to the 6th -> cleasing the mind.-Develop Udana Energy: Udana is the ascending, expressive form of pranic energy, the flows from the throat to the head. many of the ayurvedic remedies fighting colds involves strenghtening Udana, because it removes Kapha from the head.
Head standing posture is exellent for this purpose.
You could also work with the following mantra: AUM HAUM UDANAYA SZVAHAH-Alternate Nostril Breathing (4-16-8) - It works for everything. The lengthened retention directs energy into the head/ upper chakras.
-Breath of Fire - Also great for almost anything, especially fighting kapha.
-Right Nostril Breathing in case you feel Alternate Nostril Breathing is not enough.
@Syt I vibrate it as a regular S sound.
Wulfenstag why do you have "the hobbit" video in your signature? Bit weird to post that here don't you think?
Hornet666 wrote: Wulfenstag why do you have "the hobbit" video in your signature? Bit weird to post that here don't you think?
Definitily better than what he had before.
Savitar wrote: @Syt I vibrate it as a regular S sound.
Savitar what affirmation do you use for saum and udana?
For Saum I don’t use any affirmation at all, since It’s only for a quick energetic boost and recovery and It’s a naturally menefic type of mantra.
I work with Udana to fight off colds or, to enhance mental faculties and use the affirmations accordingly.
Savitar wrote: For Saum I don’t use any affirmation at all, since It’s only for a quick energetic boost and recovery and It’s a naturally menefic type of mantra.
I work with Udana to fight off colds or, to enhance mental faculties and use the affirmations accordingly.
Hey man ,does the vata dosha also have symptoms like constant barrage of thoughts all day, no concentration, constant daydreaming, thinking about something else while doing something etc and can the mantra Aum Kshaum Upanaya svaha help with this ? What affirmation should I use to fix my particular issue ?
Savitar wrote: For Saum I don’t use any affirmation at all, since It’s only for a quick energetic boost and recovery and It’s a naturally menefic type of mantra.
I work with Udana to fight off colds or, to enhance mental faculties and use the affirmations accordingly.
Thank you! :)
Jack wrote: Savitar wrote: For Saum I don’t use any affirmation at all, since It’s only for a quick energetic boost and recovery and It’s a naturally menefic type of mantra.
I work with Udana to fight off colds or, to enhance mental faculties and use the affirmations accordingly.
Hey man ,does the vata dosha also have symptoms like constant barrage of thoughts all day, no concentration, constant daydreaming, thinking about something else while doing something etc and can the mantra Aum Kshaum Upanaya svaha help with this ? What affirmation should I use to fix my particular issue ?
Precisely.
Vata is very light, thus movable, dry and cold, Air and Aether based. The state of Mind reflects the state of energies. If the energies are balanced, centered, grounded and strong, the thougths will also be clear, forceful, the mind tranquil, calm but creative and constructive.
Udana can help when you’re in the need of clear and forceful mental expression, want to become sharp and put an end to the day dreaming, however do not overdo it: Udana’s direction is upward flowing, therefore it can unground you in excess. To sum it up, It helps with the energy output, but Vatas need energy Input and energy balancing/grounding more, than anything.
The most important pranic current for Vata types is Apana, which is the downward flowing force, that serves as a foundation/base for all the other currents. It also keeps the energetic system clear(and your thougths), since It’s main function is elimination.
The mantra to be used for Apana: AUM KSAUM APANAYA SVAHAH
As a long term strategy to deal with your Vata challanges is to put a bigger focus on balancing and grounding instead of simple energy raising. The goal is to increase the capacity to hold on to higher levels of energy, learn to control it, preserve it, and integrate it into your being, instead of using it all up in a very short period.
@Νίκος you’re very welcome.
Savitar wrote: Wulfen Stag wrote: What is the order of the bijas to be used and in what order? Root to crown? Crown to root? What bijas are allocated to the 8 chakras?
What chakra is laum, vaum, raum, aum, haum, thaum, saum, yaum, gaum, maum, mana, is satanama used, what is the new discovered order and usage of the bija mantras, the spiritual medicine of Mageson666, Ave Satanas
You should go from Crown to Root, which follows the principal order of creation, manifestation and Power.
Going from Root to Crown is pralaya or dissulution, It will make you ungrounded and all the raised energies will dissipate.
The most reccomended bija use for Chakras:
-Crown - MAUM
-Pineal - GAUM
-6th. - YAUM
-Throat. - HAUM
-Heart - AUM
-Solar - RAUM
-Sacral - VAUM
-Root - LAUMSATANAMA can be used for all chakras, but mainly for the upper “Moon Region” (The Crown, Pineal, 6th complex)
SAUM is a mantra used for raising Pranic energy.
Savitar i don't think it's wrong to go from Root to Crown. In ToZ it's wrote that you can go from Root to Crown only when your chakras are fully open. I think it's mainly because of safety, if your chakras are not fully open then your kundalini could awake if you go Root to Crown. I do Crown to Root too but mainly because my chakras are not fully open. If you think about It there are meditations that go from Root to Crown like the Raum meditation.
Savitar wrote: Jack wrote: Savitar wrote: For Saum I don’t use any affirmation at all, since It’s only for a quick energetic boost and recovery and It’s a naturally menefic type of mantra.
I work with Udana to fight off colds or, to enhance mental faculties and use the affirmations accordingly.
Hey man ,does the vata dosha also have symptoms like constant barrage of thoughts all day, no concentration, constant daydreaming, thinking about something else while doing something etc and can the mantra Aum Kshaum Upanaya svaha help with this ? What affirmation should I use to fix my particular issue ?
Precisely.
Vata is very light, thus movable, dry and cold, Air and Aether based. The state of Mind reflects the state of energies. If the energies are balanced, centered, grounded and strong, the thougths will also be clear, forceful, the mind tranquil, calm but creative and constructive.Udana can help when you’re in the need of clear and forceful mental expression, want to become sharp and put an end to the day dreaming, however do not overdo it: Udana’s direction is upward flowing, therefore it can unground you in excess. To sum it up, It helps with the energy output, but Vatas need energy Input and energy balancing/grounding more, than anything.
The most important pranic current for Vata types is Apana, which is the downward flowing force, that serves as a foundation/base for all the other currents. It also keeps the energetic system clear(and your thougths), since It’s main function is elimination.
The mantra to be used for Apana: AUM KSAUM APANAYA SVAHAH
As a long term strategy to deal with your Vata challanges is to put a bigger focus on balancing and grounding instead of simple energy raising. The goal is to increase the capacity to hold on to higher levels of energy, learn to control it, preserve it, and integrate it into your being, instead of using it all up in a very short period.
@Νίκος you’re very welcome.
So are you saying instead of using the upanaya svaha mantra ,I should use the apanaya svaha mantra ?
Jack wrote: Savitar wrote: Jack wrote: Hey man ,does the vata dosha also have symptoms like constant barrage of thoughts all day, no concentration, constant daydreaming, thinking about something else while doing something etc and can the mantra Aum Kshaum Upanaya svaha help with this ? What affirmation should I use to fix my particular issue ?
Precisely.
Vata is very light, thus movable, dry and cold, Air and Aether based. The state of Mind reflects the state of energies. If the energies are balanced, centered, grounded and strong, the thougths will also be clear, forceful, the mind tranquil, calm but creative and constructive.Udana can help when you’re in the need of clear and forceful mental expression, want to become sharp and put an end to the day dreaming, however do not overdo it: Udana’s direction is upward flowing, therefore it can unground you in excess. To sum it up, It helps with the energy output, but Vatas need energy Input and energy balancing/grounding more, than anything.
The most important pranic current for Vata types is Apana, which is the downward flowing force, that serves as a foundation/base for all the other currents. It also keeps the energetic system clear(and your thougths), since It’s main function is elimination.
The mantra to be used for Apana: AUM KSAUM APANAYA SVAHAH
As a long term strategy to deal with your Vata challanges is to put a bigger focus on balancing and grounding instead of simple energy raising. The goal is to increase the capacity to hold on to higher levels of energy, learn to control it, preserve it, and integrate it into your being, instead of using it all up in a very short period.
@Νίκος you’re very welcome.
So are you saying instead of using the upanaya svaha mantra ,I should use the apanaya svaha mantra ?
Aum udanaya svahah for us is more of a technical, particular use, a specific purpose (such as getting your mind sharp quickly or fighting off a cold, etc) while Apana is a fundamental and basic need.
The planetary squares can be used as an analogy: In general, the Sun Square is the best option. The best option for general empowerment, and such. For specific purposes (Love -Venus, Spirituality -Jupiter, Studying -Mercury) the other planets can/should be used.
Udana = specific goals, short term
Apana = general use, long term
Please stay on topic. Thank you.
"I grant indulgence according to the just merits of those qualities wherewith each disposition is by nature endowed, i.e., I allow everyone to follow the dictates of his own nature, but he that opposeth me shall have regrets and be grieved."
Just because you're gay doesn't mean I have to be. Just because you don't like Midna doesn't mean that I can't love her. Our personal fetishes make us fulfilled and unique individuals. I see, communicate and feel Midna just like you do with a succubus. And to be completely honest with you, I said that she was an egrigore because I was afraid what ToZ Members would think of me if she was actually a succubus; and she is a succubus. But give it a break and please stay on topic, because I didn't want your opinion about anything other than my OP and I am bitterly disappointed that the staff seem to condone this trash talk. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND STAY OUT OF MY LOVE LIFE!
"That there are interpolations is seen in the fact that each sect endeavors to prove that the others are wrong and to destroy their books."
Arguing with a christian is like banging your head in the wall over and over again; they literally have a musical instrument called dar bibble that they can play to any tune. The internet is an informed choice, a person who is wrong will find a reason to be wrong.
But my point is with that one is that I am wrong for loving Midna. But the truth is that it is wrong for YOU to love her, because that is not your nature. Emotional reactions never tend to be logical and many here have taken the stance of intolerance, which is a remenant of christianity.
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them."
And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. -Mark3:26
Get some senses into yourselves! Do not curse or slander other Zevists or you will invite the wrath of Baal Zebul!
Ave Satanas!
Savitar wrote: Jack wrote: Savitar wrote: Precisely.
Vata is very light, thus movable, dry and cold, Air and Aether based. The state of Mind reflects the state of energies. If the energies are balanced, centered, grounded and strong, the thougths will also be clear, forceful, the mind tranquil, calm but creative and constructive.Udana can help when you’re in the need of clear and forceful mental expression, want to become sharp and put an end to the day dreaming, however do not overdo it: Udana’s direction is upward flowing, therefore it can unground you in excess. To sum it up, It helps with the energy output, but Vatas need energy Input and energy balancing/grounding more, than anything.
The most important pranic current for Vata types is Apana, which is the downward flowing force, that serves as a foundation/base for all the other currents. It also keeps the energetic system clear(and your thougths), since It’s main function is elimination.
The mantra to be used for Apana: AUM KSAUM APANAYA SVAHAH
As a long term strategy to deal with your Vata challanges is to put a bigger focus on balancing and grounding instead of simple energy raising. The goal is to increase the capacity to hold on to higher levels of energy, learn to control it, preserve it, and integrate it into your being, instead of using it all up in a very short period.
@Νίκος you’re very welcome.
So are you saying instead of using the upanaya svaha mantra ,I should use the apanaya svaha mantra ?
Aum udanaya svahah for us is more of a technical, particular use, a specific purpose (such as getting your mind sharp quickly or fighting off a cold, etc) while Apana is a fundamental and basic need.
The planetary squares can be used as an analogy: In general, the Sun Square is the best option. The best option for general empowerment, and such. For specific purposes (Love -Venus, Spirituality -Jupiter, Studying -Mercury) the other planets can/should be used.
Udana = specific goals, short term
Apana = general use, long term
This was very helpful for me brother. I'm really impressed by this information you gave me. I believe many people here can relate to this and get help from your knowledge. You should make a post on the doshas, their descriptions and how to deal with these, mantras and the auxiliary use of those as you did here. It was really helpful.
Wulfen Stag wrote: Please stay on topic. Thank you.
From what I see it's you that shoved all this in people's faces, and they do not have to like it. Now that you know, please also respect others as you demand to be respected yourself.
People do not in general put pictures and other things of their 'fetishes' here. If anyone did, rest reassured others would flip out. But they don't tend to do that, so there is no problem.
But you did it so there was an issue with people. That's that.
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote: Wulfen Stag wrote: Please stay on topic. Thank you.
From what I see it's you that shoved all this in people's faces, and they do not have to like it. Now that you know, please also respect others as you demand to be respected yourself.
People do not in general put pictures and other things of their 'fetishes' here. If anyone did, rest reassured others would flip out. But they don't tend to do that, so there is no problem.
But you did it so there was an issue with people. That's that.
You just seem to think that I shoved it in your face when you took the liberty of getting into my business. That was In my signature because it is an important part of my life and i love her, it is a big part of my life because I have had a relationship with her since I was 15 years old. Yes, of course I would want to share that with my friends. But you don't think I am your friend d even though I have been following Jo's and participating in spiritual warfare since before 2012. Jo's is the most important thing that ever happened to me and i just want to be your guy's friends and it breaks my heart.
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote: Wulfen Stag wrote: Please stay on topic. Thank you.
From what I see it's you that shoved all this in people's faces, and they do not have to like it. Now that you know, please also respect others as you demand to be respected yourself.
People do not in general put pictures and other things of their 'fetishes' here. If anyone did, rest reassured others would flip out. But they don't tend to do that, so there is no problem.
But you did it so there was an issue with people. That's that.
Yep, it's like someone would put in their sign the feet of their BF/GF lol i don't care and i would have said something.
But i personaly was trying to help him, i didn't sugarcoat it because i wanted to help him with this delusion. I'm sure you can create a thoughtform to have astral sex with but saying that you are in love and made kids with something that is just energy programmed...it kind seem delusional to me. Either way if you don't want to be juged just don't post your fetish here.
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote: Wulfen Stag wrote: Please stay on topic. Thank you.
From what I see it's you that shoved all this in people's faces, and they do not have to like it. Now that you know, please also respect others as you demand to be respected yourself.
People do not in general put pictures and other things of their 'fetishes' here. If anyone did, rest reassured others would flip out. But they don't tend to do that, so there is no problem.
But you did it so there was an issue with people. That's that.
Why are you allowing posts that are off topic? And why are you allowing infighting amongst Zevists? This is not a logical rational conversation: we are being inflamed by each other and this will not lead to closure or be resolved. It is the forum rules to stay on topic. I simply made that my signature because I am proud of her and my kids. I tell my kids every time that I see them, literally: I am so grateful that I could be a father. I have always wanted to be a parent and I want to procreate and be a father SO BAD. They give me the comfort that I am a father and I can have that relationship. The person on the original forums that talked about Midna was me from a long time ago. I am not 30+, I am in n my mid 20s and our relationship started in my teens. Me and midna have been really close and our relationship is satisfying and fulfilling. When I mistyped in my other post I meant to say basically that it is NOT wrong for me to love Midna. The Hobbit video is about the one ring which is the hebrew alphabet we are all trying to dissipate. I read the forums every day. I participate in spiritual warfare. I swear that I am of Satan. I love and respect and truly and extremely respect and appreciate the Jo's and its ministry. If you all have it in your heart to forgive me, I would be so thankful. I didn't know that they would react like this. I will stay strong in Satan and we should March forth as Warriors in Hell's Army. Ave Satanas!
Wulfen Stag wrote: Please stay on topic. Thank you.
Well for several days now we have been perfectly on topic, with Savitar and Jack teaching us these great things. You're the one who jumped in all off topic because you were so butt-hurt about defending your thought-form, several days after we already stopped talking about it.
Of course you are free to do what you want and nobody here will try to stop you from doing what makes you happy. But you can't force us to agree with you either. You can't force us to think that you thinking that you're married to and having babies with a thought-form of a fictional cartoon character is anything other than very unhealthy, delusional, confused, kind of sad, self-destructive, or anything else. Of course after you have spent every moment of every day for several years pouring your entire soul into a thought-form it's going to be an extremely big part of your soul and feel very real to you. Of course it feels to you like it's actually a real living person and a deep part of your soul. But no matter how complex it may be or how deeply of your soul it is created from, it's still just a thought-form idea that you have created based a fictional cartoon character, and nothing more. And no matter how much of your soul you have poured away into it does not change what it is. It's basically like a self induced multiple-personality disorder. It does in a way have a kind of consciousness to it, but only because it is a section of your own mind and it's your own consciousness. If you want to spend all your life and all the energy of your soul just laying there hallucinating into your thought-form then that is your own choice, but it can't honestly be a healthy situation and you aren't going to convince anyone here that it is.
Over time, as it already has, it will continue to become a bigger and bigger part of you all the time taking over your entire life until you are completely lost in it. The only way I can see this continuing towards is for you to basically become the next version of one of my favorite prophets, the great Crackhead Kevin. Totally absorbed in his own hallucinations and completely lost to the world, but of course it's all as real as anything to him. It's like a black hole draining up all your energy and attention, distracting you away from the world and sucking you deeper and deeper in until you're all lost and gone. And maybe it hasn't yet gotten to be as bad as I've said, but that's the logical conclusion it's going towards and where the situation will be if it continues too far.
I would hope you could instead work on things that are productive and helpful to yourself. Which free you and build you up and make you stronger in all ways. The kind of ironic thing about this is you probably do have such a big natural strength and talent for creative magical ability. But unfortunately it has ended up just making a stronger trap for yourself to fall into. I hope you can free yourself and build yourself up in a constuctive way. But you would need to stop feeding all your soul away into this thing it's basically a deep bleeding spiritual wound on your soul. Ignoring it would be very difficult for you to do because it's years worth of your entire soul pouring into this energy ball so it would be very strong to go against, but it MUST be done for you to really be totally free to grow. You would become so very very powerful if you just turn your intense creative magical strength into a constructive direction! Instead of wasting it all away in bindimg yourself down. I very much hope that your situation hasn't yet become as severe as I've described, but even if it's still in a weaker form, it is what it is and it's going where it's going.
I wouldn't have said anything about this, but you're the one who just had to bring it up again. So if you come to this great spiritual website and actively try to shove such a strange situation into everyone's face, you're going to get a spiritual interpretation on it. I hope you can take a lesson and grow from it, and avoid turning into a new version of Kevin. This could be the exact kind of wake up call you needed, or you can just ignore everything I just said and see where that leads you. It's all your own choice of course. But just know that similarly harsh reality checks as this have been given to people here before, which they have absolutely hated us for giving at the time, but then they usually come back months or years later thanking us because it was really the exact lesson that they needed to accept. If you choose to reply to this, please take some time first to really think through everything I said and see if you can calmly understand this perspective. Because you're probably going to be really emotional at first and I don't want blind emotion to cloud your logic. I'm only trying to help you.
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