Helping people break free of the enemy more info: The inner False person

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

(...) This can be caused by childhood trauma as well or things dealing with that.

I think this whole "child inside" issue, is related to the Moon and 6th chakra.
Since I have started to raise from the shadows of the mind memories, emotions, etc. I have a sort of dark energy around my 6th chakra and I cannot properly feel it as it should be.
I belive the mind sees as "child" a sort of emotional part of the soul, containing the very raw emotions (that have to do with Magick also, as I see I generated events without willing, that come from those repressed emotions).
So people imagine they have a child inside, while they simply talk to their own mind at a deeper level, and use the child to visualize/imagine this. I think this is a process of cleaning and also sublimating 6th chakra energies, then Moon energies.
As Moon is linked to both childhood and emotions, this made sense to me.

Yes releasing emotions is key as well as cleansing energies from this event or whatever set this whole thing up.

slyscorpion wrote:

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

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Hey Sly,

Ive read the other message. I just wanted to say, that it is impossible to bring up things that have to do with trauma to the forums.

This is all due to the enemy. Opening up about such grave things would invite you to be cursed the heck out of you.

Not to mention the people that misunderstand and would rather just point fingers.

Ive done Fts in the past that had the removal of traumatic experience in the affirmation but nothing happened. Have you had the same experience?

That sucks if true. I have seen a lot of people bring up various things before on here though. I didn't think of that.

That actually makes sense. When dealing with traumas you need a healing affirmation and some kind of positive energy or healing rune along with freeing. I think they can be added together. Same experience just doing freeing the soul on it. So the working needs to be a little more elaborate.

Example Wunjo Ansuz Nauthiz (of course others or different ones can be used if a person thinks it's better)
More elaborate affirmations can be done that more focus the mind on the event and healing it but in present tense. I had luck with that. About 90 to 120 days for serious traumas maybe a little longer and it's gone.

I have to say, as I am dealing with many traumas from childhood, the enemy uses those events to enslave your mind.
I am still in the process to clarify but I'll relate what I found out until now.
Letting emotions emerge from your mind is helpful, I did, and some very intense emotions rose and manifested without me even knowing why, it was overwhelming. This happened as the mind was triggered by things I saw, and songs I listened, that pertained to my childhood. After emotions arose, and I dealt with them, I have been able to recall past events and now I can understand what happened. I am dealing with traumas.

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will. He was not able to escape this room, until I put myself in deep trance and visualized him to get out and I locked the room with my father inside. I felt a very big relief and deep happiness.
This "child" does seem to exist as a thoughtform, I have perceived him moving around. I believe I simply projected a dense bunch of emotions into a form with which you can dialogue.
It is rather confusion but, it worked.
Before dealing with all of this, I had the deep feeling I was worthless, and I had to struggle even to buy decent clothes as I would unconsciously choose the less value for them and use them until worn out. Now I feel like I deserve more, and this is a big step.
I have been helped by my GD In this process, I have been said I am recalling childhood sadness in steps, as it would be too much to remember everything and may overwhelm myself.

I hope my experience, even if a bit confusing, may help others to deal with repressed bad feeling. I think many of us carry some hidden baggage, in different forms.
I also believe the enemy uses this baggage to enslave the mind. If this "child" is locked somewhere and forced to feel in a way, you are not really free. If the person who caused traumas is under the enemy influence (most likely), christian or worst, this puts a part of your mind/soul (?) under his/her influence.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Hey Sly,

Ive read the other message. I just wanted to say, that it is impossible to bring up things that have to do with trauma to the forums.

This is all due to the enemy. Opening up about such grave things would invite you to be cursed the heck out of you.

Not to mention the people that misunderstand and would rather just point fingers.

Ive done Fts in the past that had the removal of traumatic experience in the affirmation but nothing happened. Have you had the same experience?

That sucks if true. I have seen a lot of people bring up various things before on here though. I didn't think of that.

That actually makes sense. When dealing with traumas you need a healing affirmation and some kind of positive energy or healing rune along with freeing. I think they can be added together. Same experience just doing freeing the soul on it. So the working needs to be a little more elaborate.

Example Wunjo Ansuz Nauthiz (of course others or different ones can be used if a person thinks it's better)
More elaborate affirmations can be done that more focus the mind on the event and healing it but in present tense. I had luck with that. About 90 to 120 days for serious traumas maybe a little longer and it's gone.

I have to say, as I am dealing with many traumas from childhood, the enemy uses those events to enslave your mind.
I am still in the process to clarify but I'll relate what I found out until now.
Letting emotions emerge from your mind is helpful, I did, and some very intense emotions rose and manifested without me even knowing why, it was overwhelming. This happened as the mind was triggered by things I saw, and songs I listened, that pertained to my childhood. After emotions arose, and I dealt with them, I have been able to recall past events and now I can understand what happened. I am dealing with traumas.

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will. He was not able to escape this room, until I put myself in deep trance and visualized him to get out and I locked the room with my father inside. I felt a very big relief and deep happiness.
This "child" does seem to exist as a thoughtform, I have perceived him moving around. I believe I simply projected a dense bunch of emotions into a form with which you can dialogue.
It is rather confusion but, it worked.
Before dealing with all of this, I had the deep feeling I was worthless, and I had to struggle even to buy decent clothes as I would unconsciously choose the less value for them and use them until worn out. Now I feel like I deserve more, and this is a big step.
I have been helped by my GD In this process, I have been said I am recalling childhood sadness in steps, as it would be too much to remember everything and may overwhelm myself.

I hope my experience, even if a bit confusing, may help others to deal with repressed bad feeling. I think many of us carry some hidden baggage, in different forms.
I also believe the enemy uses this baggage to enslave the mind. If this "child" is locked somewhere and forced to feel in a way, you are not really free. If the person who caused traumas is under the enemy influence (most likely), christian or worst, this puts a part of your mind/soul (?) under his/her influence.

Yes. The inner child thing is also influence from the person. I think it's all mostly the same cause end stage with the enemy ends in mostly the same beliefs such as be a victim hate yourself conform to everyone the world is evil or bad etc. That is just some of them but pretty sure it's common in this.

A person needs to cleanse themselves of this energy and influence and heal the traumas for this to go away. It can be a long road.

I honestly would suggest (I will not elaborate on anything you emailed me like I promised) to find someone you can talk to like a therapist or someone specialized in this. It won't take care of the spiritual part but in the physical and emotional it's good to talk this stuff out with someone.

I mean I do know how to help people out of a lot of this stuff and have done it with my girlfriend and a couple others but I will be damned if I have another one of these vampire things on me. That would create astral links so not going to do that with you.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Hey Sly,

Ive read the other message. I just wanted to say, that it is impossible to bring up things that have to do with trauma to the forums.

This is all due to the enemy. Opening up about such grave things would invite you to be cursed the heck out of you.

Not to mention the people that misunderstand and would rather just point fingers.

Ive done Fts in the past that had the removal of traumatic experience in the affirmation but nothing happened. Have you had the same experience?

That sucks if true. I have seen a lot of people bring up various things before on here though. I didn't think of that.

That actually makes sense. When dealing with traumas you need a healing affirmation and some kind of positive energy or healing rune along with freeing. I think they can be added together. Same experience just doing freeing the soul on it. So the working needs to be a little more elaborate.

Example Wunjo Ansuz Nauthiz (of course others or different ones can be used if a person thinks it's better)
More elaborate affirmations can be done that more focus the mind on the event and healing it but in present tense. I had luck with that. About 90 to 120 days for serious traumas maybe a little longer and it's gone.

I have to say, as I am dealing with many traumas from childhood, the enemy uses those events to enslave your mind.
I am still in the process to clarify but I'll relate what I found out until now.
Letting emotions emerge from your mind is helpful, I did, and some very intense emotions rose and manifested without me even knowing why, it was overwhelming. This happened as the mind was triggered by things I saw, and songs I listened, that pertained to my childhood. After emotions arose, and I dealt with them, I have been able to recall past events and now I can understand what happened. I am dealing with traumas.

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will. He was not able to escape this room, until I put myself in deep trance and visualized him to get out and I locked the room with my father inside. I felt a very big relief and deep happiness.
This "child" does seem to exist as a thoughtform, I have perceived him moving around. I believe I simply projected a dense bunch of emotions into a form with which you can dialogue.
It is rather confusion but, it worked.
Before dealing with all of this, I had the deep feeling I was worthless, and I had to struggle even to buy decent clothes as I would unconsciously choose the less value for them and use them until worn out. Now I feel like I deserve more, and this is a big step.
I have been helped by my GD In this process, I have been said I am recalling childhood sadness in steps, as it would be too much to remember everything and may overwhelm myself.

I hope my experience, even if a bit confusing, may help others to deal with repressed bad feeling. I think many of us carry some hidden baggage, in different forms.
I also believe the enemy uses this baggage to enslave the mind. If this "child" is locked somewhere and forced to feel in a way, you are not really free. If the person who caused traumas is under the enemy influence (most likely), christian or worst, this puts a part of your mind/soul (?) under his/her influence.

The approach that worked for me is 1. Having someone to talk too about all this. And 2. Healing workings and 3 freeing the soul.

Along with this. Some unrelated programming if it comes up during this you can work on in adding separate workings. A couple years of this and your good it's almost as if it didn't happen for some people.

Just sharing.

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

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Hey Sly,

Ive read the other message. I just wanted to say, that it is impossible to bring up things that have to do with trauma to the forums.

This is all due to the enemy. Opening up about such grave things would invite you to be cursed the heck out of you.

Not to mention the people that misunderstand and would rather just point fingers.

Ive done Fts in the past that had the removal of traumatic experience in the affirmation but nothing happened. Have you had the same experience?

I too tried a working similar to that and the effects were more like surface issues and not the root of things. It still offered relief tho.

I notice the more specific the better, and also to think outside the box.

For example, I tried to remove sexual trauma with both a square and a runic Waunyo working but to no avail. However, I have had more success with purification workings and freedom workings.

I am using UR on my sacral chakra to separate all past and present life sexual connections to ALL other beings. Only 3 days in but it feels good as I do it.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Hey Sly,

Ive read the other message. I just wanted to say, that it is impossible to bring up things that have to do with trauma to the forums.

This is all due to the enemy. Opening up about such grave things would invite you to be cursed the heck out of you.

Not to mention the people that misunderstand and would rather just point fingers.

Ive done Fts in the past that had the removal of traumatic experience in the affirmation but nothing happened. Have you had the same experience?

That sucks if true. I have seen a lot of people bring up various things before on here though. I didn't think of that.

That actually makes sense. When dealing with traumas you need a healing affirmation and some kind of positive energy or healing rune along with freeing. I think they can be added together. Same experience just doing freeing the soul on it. So the working needs to be a little more elaborate.

Example Wunjo Ansuz Nauthiz (of course others or different ones can be used if a person thinks it's better)
More elaborate affirmations can be done that more focus the mind on the event and healing it but in present tense. I had luck with that. About 90 to 120 days for serious traumas maybe a little longer and it's gone.

I have to say, as I am dealing with many traumas from childhood, the enemy uses those events to enslave your mind.
I am still in the process to clarify but I'll relate what I found out until now.
Letting emotions emerge from your mind is helpful, I did, and some very intense emotions rose and manifested without me even knowing why, it was overwhelming. This happened as the mind was triggered by things I saw, and songs I listened, that pertained to my childhood. After emotions arose, and I dealt with them, I have been able to recall past events and now I can understand what happened. I am dealing with traumas.

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will. He was not able to escape this room, until I put myself in deep trance and visualized him to get out and I locked the room with my father inside. I felt a very big relief and deep happiness.
This "child" does seem to exist as a thoughtform, I have perceived him moving around. I believe I simply projected a dense bunch of emotions into a form with which you can dialogue.
It is rather confusion but, it worked.
Before dealing with all of this, I had the deep feeling I was worthless, and I had to struggle even to buy decent clothes as I would unconsciously choose the less value for them and use them until worn out. Now I feel like I deserve more, and this is a big step.
I have been helped by my GD In this process, I have been said I am recalling childhood sadness in steps, as it would be too much to remember everything and may overwhelm myself.

I hope my experience, even if a bit confusing, may help others to deal with repressed bad feeling. I think many of us carry some hidden baggage, in different forms.
I also believe the enemy uses this baggage to enslave the mind. If this "child" is locked somewhere and forced to feel in a way, you are not really free. If the person who caused traumas is under the enemy influence (most likely), christian or worst, this puts a part of your mind/soul (?) under his/her influence.

This also is why this is so difficult to get off you partly that thoughtform. I can tell from your writing sometimes in the way you write a few things sounds like the older generation in general.

Hmm remove the influence. If you end up cursing him still not going to solve all this even without mind control. You need to remove the energy and influence.

slyscorpion wrote:

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

That sucks if true. I have seen a lot of people bring up various things before on here though. I didn't think of that.

That actually makes sense. When dealing with traumas you need a healing affirmation and some kind of positive energy or healing rune along with freeing. I think they can be added together. Same experience just doing freeing the soul on it. So the working needs to be a little more elaborate.

Example Wunjo Ansuz Nauthiz (of course others or different ones can be used if a person thinks it's better)
More elaborate affirmations can be done that more focus the mind on the event and healing it but in present tense. I had luck with that. About 90 to 120 days for serious traumas maybe a little longer and it's gone.

I have to say, as I am dealing with many traumas from childhood, the enemy uses those events to enslave your mind.
I am still in the process to clarify but I'll relate what I found out until now.
Letting emotions emerge from your mind is helpful, I did, and some very intense emotions rose and manifested without me even knowing why, it was overwhelming. This happened as the mind was triggered by things I saw, and songs I listened, that pertained to my childhood. After emotions arose, and I dealt with them, I have been able to recall past events and now I can understand what happened. I am dealing with traumas.

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will. He was not able to escape this room, until I put myself in deep trance and visualized him to get out and I locked the room with my father inside. I felt a very big relief and deep happiness.
This "child" does seem to exist as a thoughtform, I have perceived him moving around. I believe I simply projected a dense bunch of emotions into a form with which you can dialogue.
It is rather confusion but, it worked.
Before dealing with all of this, I had the deep feeling I was worthless, and I had to struggle even to buy decent clothes as I would unconsciously choose the less value for them and use them until worn out. Now I feel like I deserve more, and this is a big step.
I have been helped by my GD In this process, I have been said I am recalling childhood sadness in steps, as it would be too much to remember everything and may overwhelm myself.

I hope my experience, even if a bit confusing, may help others to deal with repressed bad feeling. I think many of us carry some hidden baggage, in different forms.
I also believe the enemy uses this baggage to enslave the mind. If this "child" is locked somewhere and forced to feel in a way, you are not really free. If the person who caused traumas is under the enemy influence (most likely), christian or worst, this puts a part of your mind/soul (?) under his/her influence.

This also is why this is so difficult to get off you partly that thoughtform. I can tell from your writing sometimes in the way you write a few things sounds like the older generation in general.

Hmm remove the influence. If you end up cursing him still not going to solve all this even without mind control. You need to remove the energy and influence.

And no I am not saying everything is bad about the older generation or anything some of their ideas are better just that this is how I can tell you still have deep attachment to his ideas somehow.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

The whole "inside child" thing is somehow true. I have - to my surprise - found that this "child" (that I believe is the emotional/Moon level of our soul, or something related to) was locked in a place where traumas happened at 5 years old. It is sort of dark room where "he" was scared, and subdued/enslaved to my father's will.

I just wanted to update. With meditation and visualization while in trance, I have been able to let this "child" come out from the dark room that is now lit, revealing facts to me. Still a long way to walk to re-establish emotional balance, as this child (be it a thoughtform or a representation of an inner level of the soul, cannot figure this out yet) is full of negative emotions that need to be cleaned. I will use 1. Sowilo rune with Lunar cleaning meditation from New Moon 2. Wunjo rune to fix traumas 3. Inner talking while in trance, sort of self-hypnosis (as per ToZ technique) to adjust thing.
This seems to go in parallel with cleaning of 6th chakra from past or karmic dross.

I will be silent for a while. Should I find new noticeable thinks, I will update.

Adhiti666 wrote:

Basically, I just wanted to be more like myself and then develop from there and not like this other person.

This is also what I thought, I am building on myself according to my natal chart and soul, and not according to other's will, expectations or desires (that were, to be a clone of him).

Actually, this is something I have been struggling for years now, and a few days ago I had a breakdown because of it. I had no idea what the actual causes were, I always used a psychological approach without knowing that this can be connected to the enemy. I spent my previous days searching on this forum and the website, I discovered that even thought I wasn't raised in a christian family, the programming itself had effected me greatly. Which is something I never thought of before as a possibility, but here we are. I'm somewhat happy about this discovery, because I can finally work on it :)
I don't think I'II write too much on the forums, but I just wanted to say thank you for explaining this, and helping me find my way. The fact that I managed to understand is a big thing in itself :D :D :D

GoldenSky wrote:

Actually, this is something I have been struggling for years now, and a few days ago I had a breakdown because of it. I had no idea what the actual causes were, I always used a psychological approach without knowing that this can be connected to the enemy. I spent my previous days searching on this forum and the website, I discovered that even thought I wasn't raised in a christian family, the programming itself had effected me greatly. Which is something I never thought of before as a possibility, but here we are. I'm somewhat happy about this discovery, because I can finally work on it :)
I don't think I'II write too much on the forums, but I just wanted to say thank you for explaining this, and helping me find my way. The fact that I managed to understand is a big thing in itself :D :D :D

I am glad I have been of help.
I had a breakdown too years ago without knowing why; now I understood this was due to buried self-hate that manifested during a bad Saturn transit.