I'm just wondering how I can be 100% sure that I've narrowed down the right demon?
Discussion
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@...
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Well, diznit, because I have read the exact instructions on how to find one on this site:
this is why I have posted my question.
2011/10/11 diznit26 <[ email redacted ]
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@...
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
The exact instructions there say that this info about the elements or sex might not apply to everyone, so you shouldn't take them as absolute rules.
But yeah this is my opinion, I really don't see the point doing all this just to find a name as godrick and me said it doesn't guarantee that you'll get connected with them immediately, especially if you haven't opened your astral senses. I think the usual mistake newbies do is they want to find their GD immediately after dedicating and they start worrying about things like who their GD is and this diverts their attention when they should work to know Satan and empower their souls. If you can do both find your GD and being able to empower your soul and not worry then kudos to you.
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Well, diznit, because I have read the exact instructions on how to find one
on this site:
this is why I have posted my question.
2011/10/11 diznit26 <diznit26@...
**
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again,
as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now,
I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Please note that I'm not saying that if you like to find him/her you shouldn't do it. Of course you can try to find him/her but don't place too much emphasis on finding your GD to the exclusion of everything else and most importantly DO NOT WORRY about who your GD is.
I felt I really had to say this as I see people joining, dedicating, then wanting to find who their GD is and worrying about it because of different methods not working and at the same time do not do anything else for their self-empowerment, as if finding your GD is a thing to die for.
I found mine pretty easily just by doing a ritual to Satan and I got signs about who my GD is, but I really didn't get any satisfaction other than knowing a single name.
Not to mention that if your Guardian sees you are ready and empowered, he will contact you. Believe me your guardian wants to get to know you as much as you.
--- In , "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ, obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 [ email redacted ] <[ email redacted ]
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
You are right diznit,my GD found me when it was time.Hail SatanBrian
From: diznit26 <diznit26@...
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Guardian DemonPlease note that I'm not saying that if you like to find him/her you shouldn't do it. Of course you can try to find him/her but don't place too much emphasis on finding your GD to the exclusion of everything else and most importantly DO NOT WORRY about who your GD is.
I felt I really had to say this as I see people joining, dedicating, then wanting to find who their GD is and worrying about it because of different methods not working and at the same time do not do anything else for their self-empowerment, as if finding your GD is a thing to die for.
I found mine pretty easily just by doing a ritual to Satan and I got signs about who my GD is, but I really didn't get any satisfaction other than knowing a single name.
Not to mention that if your Guardian sees you are ready and empowered, he will contact you. Believe me your guardian wants to get to know you as much as you.
--- In , "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@... <godrickzepher@...
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Lol I was struggling to explain this whole situation with the GD but you explained it perfectly and I could't say this myself any better than that, thanks.
--- In , "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@... wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Thank you. This makes sense now. Written word is often two way street, one might interpret it very differently than the other. Especially when English is not the first language. I am from Europe. Finding my GD was not my entire occupation, of course. I was and am constantly working through meditations, yoga and breathing exercises.
I have posted another question about my kundalini being too early, perhaps you have seen it and might want to suggest me something as well?
2011/10/11 diznit26 <[ email redacted ]
Please note that I'm not saying that if you like to find him/her you shouldn't do it. Of course you can try to find him/her but don't place too much emphasis on finding your GD to the exclusion of everything else and most importantly DO NOT WORRY about who your GD is.
I felt I really had to say this as I see people joining, dedicating, then wanting to find who their GD is and worrying about it because of different methods not working and at the same time do not do anything else for their self-empowerment, as if finding your GD is a thing to die for.
I found mine pretty easily just by doing a ritual to Satan and I got signs about who my GD is, but I really didn't get any satisfaction other than knowing a single name.
Not to mention that if your Guardian sees you are ready and empowered, he will contact you. Believe me your guardian wants to get to know you as much as you.
--- In , "godrickzepher@..." <godrickzepher@... wrote:
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul. Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element (again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest? Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD? Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
What's wrong with you anyway? Do you want to smack my face or something?? I thought this mailing group is for help not for attacking every newbie who posts a question every time or even worse: not answering at all by anyone. Hell :S
Well, as I have learned in the past and am learning it again: A person always walks alone.
I didn't know this site is not part of ToZ. I am just trying to look for proper information which is not corrupted by the enemy and I am pretty busy with translation for the rest of us here, who don't speak English. And Godrick may answer for himself to me, you don't need to jump in. As well, you could give me some free space concerning language, would you like to argue in mine and see how difficult it can be? Searching the hair in the egg, right? Is that your saying as well?
Brothers and Sisters? Right.
2011/10/11 diznit26 <[ email redacted ]
To be technically correct, this is not ToZ it's GBLT Thule Society, a site by a ToZ clergy member.
However to say that this is ToZ it's wrong, it's not ToZ but affiliated with it. The only pages which are called ToZ are those who begin with "angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666External ↗" or "freewebs.com/eridu66External ↗" or a few others. That's the reason I say for example "I found that on HP Vovim Baghie's site" and not on ToZ, it's a completely different site although it's written by a clergy member.
Yes you did say "I went through all lists of Kings and Demons, just as it was suggested on ToZ".
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:
This is not a part of the ToZ, but a page affiliated with the ToZ and it's also not written by a HP by a member there. You saw it is on the members section under sermons. The only information on ToZ about guardians is here:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... rdian.htmlExternal ↗
This page you posted also disagrees with this one from the ToZ where it says that you should use a pendulum or ouija board. There are differences in opinions and this is normal, it doesn't make anyone wrong. But according to your opinion it would make it invalid somehow.
And blindly agreeing goes both ways, you should too check other things and use your common sense before blindly agreeing with the page you posted.
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Wynterwatcher,
thank you for this beautifully written letter, this one I like very much. As well as it's content, of course:), which is the true answer and the one I was hoping to get.
I'm not one of those who easily give up, I wasn't feeling bad at all by any means. Far from it. I am truly happy for finding ToZ, being an occultist from my early teens, growing up in "witches" family as well. And now that we (5 of us) read ToZ, tears of true joy are in our eyes because we have been living by this philosophy all our lives, we only didn't have the name for it. Can you imagine it? A year ago I didn't even know the terms RHP and LHP, really. It took a lot of research to find out that this is who we are, though not knowing the correct semantics.
Excuse me if I have written something incorrectly, as I have mentioned many times before, we are from Europe and only I speak English.
Thank you again for your reply.
Hail Father!
2011/10/11 wynterwatcher <[ email redacted ]
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@... <godrickzepher@...
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
Yes diznit, I agree with you on this one. Wynterwatcher has explained it to me in a polite, respectful and well-spoken way and I am thankful for this. We should all have these qualities when addressing each other, don't you think so? And if you mean to be disrespectful towards me, I wish you wouldn't bother to explain anything further. See, I have pride issues and am not willing to diminish them, because I enjoy having them. To each her own.
Hail Father Satan!
2011/10/11 diznit26 <[ email redacted ]
Lol I was struggling to explain this whole situation with the GD but you explained it perfectly and I could't say this myself any better than that, thanks.
--- In , "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@... wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of "dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@ wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
I haven't posted anything disrespectful here, If I wanted to do that I would use insults or sarcasm. I have no idea you took anything as an insult. Example of a real disrespectful post of mine:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoyofSata ... sage/43985External ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Yes diznit, I agree with you on this one. Wynterwatcher has explained it to
me in a polite, respectful and well-spoken way and I am thankful for this.
We should all have these qualities when addressing each other, don't you
think so? And if you mean to be disrespectful towards me, I wish you
wouldn't bother to explain anything further. See, I have pride issues and am
not willing to diminish them, because I enjoy having them. To each her own.
Hail Father Satan!
2011/10/11 diznit26 <diznit26@...
**
Lol I was struggling to explain this whole situation with the GD but you
explained it perfectly and I could't say this myself any better than that,
thanks.
--- In , "wynterwatcher" <wynterwatcher@
wrote:
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able
to make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to
be able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of
"dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of
posts where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have
not been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be
frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that
know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are
stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still
have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD
quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more
than others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on
that particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD,
or try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to
respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when
they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek
a connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by
empowering before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try,
just don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first
time, and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have
to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what
do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is
the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with
someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their
senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just
empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even
see why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this
which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready.
When you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your
soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and
Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now
I have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and
till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you
suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my
GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
@ Darla,
You are welcome, glad I could help clarify :).
@ Diznit,
Anytime, we all suffer from explination problems at some time or other, lol ;)
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@... wrote:
Wynterwatcher,
thank you for this beautifully written letter, this one I like very much. As
well as it's content, of course:), which is the true answer and the one I
was hoping to get.
I'm not one of those who easily give up, I wasn't feeling bad at all by any
means. Far from it. I am truly happy for finding ToZ, being an occultist
from my early teens, growing up in "witches" family as well. And now that we
(5 of us) read ToZ, tears of true joy are in our eyes because we have been
living by this philosophy all our lives, we only didn't have the name for
it. Can you imagine it? A year ago I didn't even know the terms RHP and LHP,
really. It took a lot of research to find out that this is who we are,
though not knowing the correct semantics.
Excuse me if I have written something incorrectly, as I have mentioned many
times before, we are from Europe and only I speak English.
Thank you again for your reply.
Hail Father!
2011/10/11 wynterwatcher <wynterwatcher@...
**
Darla,
Many people when they first start seeking their GD end up not being able to
make "contact" because they have not completely empowered themselves to be
able to see/speak with/feel their GD. Then follows a feeling of
"dissapointment" or "what am I doing wrong" idea.
Diznit and Godrick, as well as myself and others, have seen a lot of posts
where people have been upset and questioning themselves when they have not
been able to find their GD when they first start out. This can be
frustrating to both the person seeking their GD as well as those of us that
know being open enough is usually needed first. Which is why they are
stressing this point to you.
There are many on here that have been dedicated for a long time and still
have not found their GD, while there are others that have found their GD
quickly. Each person is different.
If you are feeling a possible "connection" with a particular one more than
others, than it is possible you have found your GD. Try meditating on that
particular GD name/sigil and respectfully request if they are your GD, or
try asking Satan first.
Just remember, the Gods are extremely busy and may not always be able to
respond right away. In addition, you may not be open enough to realize when
they do respond.
That is the whole point behind empowering yourself before trying to seek a
connection. Look at it as a way to ensure that you are "ready" by empowering
before you seek.
However, if you feel you are ready than that is your decision to try, just
don't be too dissappointed if you do not make the contact on the first time,
and glad if you do. Remember, responsibility to the respoinsible.
Hail Satan always!!!
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
Yes, Godrick I agree too with empowering ones soul first. But you have to
understand that I have come across this page, which is part of ToZ,
obviously, and there are exact instructions on how to find GD. So, what
do
you suggest now? Should I just ignore this, even if it was written from
someone much advanced than you or me or diznit? Perhaps a HP? Here is the
link, and check for yourself first before you blindly agree with someone.
2011/10/11 godrickzepher@ <godrickzepher@
**
I agree with Diznit on this! Makes perfect sense, how can one even
communicate good with his/her guide if he/she hasn't opened their
senses. I
wasted much time concerning myself with this as well, best to just
empower
yourself and sit back , it will all come together.
--- In , "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrote:
The sex and element has nothing to do with your GD. I don't even see
why
you would want to stress your mind and body going through all this
which is
not even important, as your GD will contact you when you're ready. When
you
should be focused on doing more important things like empowering your
soul.
Please read this link I gave to another person yeserday:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ience.htmlExternal ↗
--- In , Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
wrote:
From: Darla Ananta <darla.ananta@
Date: 2011/9/25
Subject: Guardian Demon
To:
Greetings,
I wonder if this is ok: I went through all lists of Kings and
Demons,
just
as it was suggested on ToZ, then I sorted them by sex and element
(again, as
it was suggested to get a smaller number to meditate on) and now I
have
come
up with only 4. From the first minute (when I only started) and
till
now, I
laid my eyes on one and I still think that's it. What do you
suggest?
Should
I meditate on all four of them or just ask the one I think is my
GD?
Thanks
Ave Lucifer!
How do u find out?
--- In , "gunslingerscap" <gunslingerscap@... wrote:
If you are talking about choosing one, let me remind you that guardian demons choose us and come to us, not the other way around, and the one who does is that which will be best suited for you
hail satan!
I like the way you put that... It is very true....
--- In , "hardstyle_and_shufflin" <hardstyle_and_shufflin@... wrote:
As someone else had said, we dont choose our guardian demons. THEY choose US. And contrary to whatever you've read on ToZ and elsewhere, Satan has came to me personally in the past when I was having the same problem, and told me "You dont always have a guardian demon. Its not guaranteed. " For me, my reason was, no demon had chosen me yet because I hadnt shown full devotion to Zevism yet. As I devoted myself more and more to Satan and his teachings, and believed it to be the truth with 0% doubt, i began to notice subtle unexplainable things happening in my daily life. And eventually I realized who it was, etc.
Second, even if you do have a guardian demon, dont count on finding out who it is. Demons do not have to answer to us in anyways, be they your guardian or not. Sometimes their name is irrelevant at the time, and theyll tell you when they see that you are truly devoted to them. For instance I wouldnt want to tell important details about myself to someone, if they are impatient, rude, or any of the like. They wouldnt be worth my time.
You need to have patience. It could take years for you to find out who your guardian demon is. Patience is KEY.
I think alot of times when new Zevists come into Satan's Family, they expect to be given everything with no work involved or without putting in any effort or devotion. Im not saying you are like that, im just throwing that out there.
As for suggestions, meditate, keep meditating, if you cant find your demon now then just lay off for awhile. You may not have one yet, or they might be waiting for you to grow more trained in Satans Teachings.
Hello everyone, i recently dedicated and my life is going well ever since! I am performing void meditation and other power meditations on a daily basis, also working on awakening my third eye. I was just wondering do i need a ritual to call my guardian demon? Thanks a lot.
HAIL SATAN ! <3
Hello everyone i recently dedicated my soul to Father Satan, and i am performing power meditation regularly to become stronger. I was wondering do i need to perform a ritual to meet and talk with my Guardian Demon? And how will he appear to me? Thanks !
I'm wondering what is the best means of finding out your Guardian Demon? As I've been continuing my meditations, it's still a thought that lingers throughout the days. I sit there with my Ouiji board to no avail at all(by no avail I mean nothing has ever spoken to me through it). I also have a black mirror in my possession, but I'm waiting until the next full moon as it hasn't absorded any energy in quite some time.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Hail Father Satan,
Xeritch