I'm asking anyone here who has had an experience with Flaures to please post them here as I'm intending to summon Her. I read in other places on the web that Flaures is a male but on the ToZ it describes Her as female. I read that in Wikipedia that She appears with a leopard's head.
The reason I need Her is because I would like Her to do away with someone. I was considering summoning Andras but as I read about Him, I formed the perception that He is quite unfriendly. I also read on the Ea/aquarian website that He is not a part of Satan's Empire but is rather allied with Satan, for Andras hates to be a part of anything. I also find it quite difficult to find pictures on demons anywhere. I would greatly appreciate it if any of you offered some knowledge abut Her.
Discussion
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <[ email redacted ]wrote:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <[ email redacted ]<lightseeker15%40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@...
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@... wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has to do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any methods to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention that the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of the Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion. See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest you can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you call them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are extraterrestrials but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation. There are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the rest of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit" realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are, extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called spirits for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same, and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals and now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add that i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
just curious, what is your method of contacting the Gods on the astral?
I have found that chanting a God's name will attract varying sorts of impostors and angels that will try to overpower you with their aura.
--- In , Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <[email protected]:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@...<lightseeker15%40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@ wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has to do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any methods to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention that the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of the Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion. See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest you can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you call them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are extraterrestrials but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation. There are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the rest of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit" realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are, extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called spirits for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same, and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals and now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add that i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
By working with the essence of the energy from those realms and collecting
them. Doing so you can create portals as I have learned. Sometimes just
having the energy will cause you to enter that realm of experience.
Everyone has that energy, but in varying degrees and ratios, as there are
also specific energies associated with the spiritual realm as well.
For purposes of keeping things general I use the term spirit realm, as it is
a more widely accepted term. But in fact there are different realms, like
the dark realm, the astral realm, and the spiritual realm. You may have
heard people say things like high vibe and low vibes, but really what each
realm is is just a specific energy vibration. Certain beings inhabit each
of these realms and can only be specific to those realms, but some can cross
between them like the gods themselves (immortals). It is a matter of being
able to raise magickal "energy type" and work with it.
To keep things from being confusing, I'd like to refrain from using the two
different names angels and demons. We both know that they are real beings,
as the only difference is in who they are allied with. For all intents and
purposes, I'll use the term gods or immortals. Lets analyze the situation
first here.. you said that when you chant the immortal gods name (daemon),
you get opposing entities. The same can be said for those christians who
say they are from the "light side." So, I've arrived at the conclusion that
it isn't so much your inability to get into contact with them, as it is
attracting opposing forces.
If you are surrounded by christians, and you invoke their natural enemy..
you will of course get shit for it. The same thing goes for if a christian
is surrounded by Satanists. It isn't just the fact you are calling on a
god, the same thing can be said for people who generally have light or dark
natures. Put a very dark person in a crowd of very bright people... there
is gonna be a mismatch, and in some ways a fight.
Back to my point of the reason I didn't want to use the term angels and
demons/daemons. The reasoning here is that it doesn't matter if you call
their name.. you also run the risk of calling other forces to you, and
either being attacked or tricked.. while thinking you are working with your
"ally." That word "ally" is an old word that Shamans used and is probably a
more appropriate name to call something. In order to know its your ally
though.. you have to be able to perceive them.. which pretty much means
working on power meditation and psychic skills... .
It really does come back down to the "core abilities." Working with demons,
angels, spirits an other beings is great.. but you have to have the ability
to be able to distinguish things, so you can begin to work with them.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Seth R <[ email redacted ] wrote:
just curious, what is your method of contacting the Gods on the astral?
I have found that chanting a God's name will attract varying sorts of
impostors and angels that will try to overpower you with their aura.
--- In <,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I
know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to
disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off
seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy
nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <[email protected]:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@...<lightseeker15%
40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical
evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people
watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but
isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <
<,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@ wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I
DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to
open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and
inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has to
do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any methods
to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because
there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm
that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention that
the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are
spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are
physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <
<,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of the
Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are
aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded
pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the
Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of
thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <
<,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established
they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly
say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion.
See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I
see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest you
can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations
pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that
tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you call
them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even
multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to
the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the
numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole
other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons
on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are extraterrestrials
but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation. There
are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by
doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking
around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are
faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about
your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from
time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the rest
of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with
their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges
them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find
that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit"
realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies
are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are,
extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their
astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called spirits
for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they
are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same, and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals and
now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your
fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to
every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which
happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just
came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not
spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a
female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is
mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as
being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for
doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some
extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add that
i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i
felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even
if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword..
For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows
his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend,
he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I have another important question, I like to visualize the Demon (basedon the ToZ descriptions) INSTEAD of their sigil, is that as effective or they still can't hear me?
--- In , "Seth R" <jri9vero@... wrote:
just curious, what is your method of contacting the Gods on the astral?
I have found that chanting a God's name will attract varying sorts of impostors and angels that will try to overpower you with their aura.
--- In , Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@wrote:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@<lightseeker15%40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@ wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has to do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any methods to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention that the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of the Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion. See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest you can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you call them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are extraterrestrials but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation. There are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the rest of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit" realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are, extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called spirits for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same, and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals and now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add that i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hey.
I believe if u visualize the God ure creating a thoughtform of what you "believe" the God should look like instead of what he/she really is.
Visualizing the sigil really connects you to the God. When meditating on the sigils of elemental beings, i can literally taste, smell or feel the impressions it gives me.
--- In , "John Blood" <highabove72@... wrote:
I have another important question, I like to visualize the Demon (basedon the ToZ descriptions) INSTEAD of their sigil, is that as effective or they still can't hear me?
--- In , "Seth R" <jri9vero@ wrote:
just curious, what is your method of contacting the Gods on the astral?
I have found that chanting a God's name will attract varying sorts of impostors and angels that will try to overpower you with their aura.
--- In , Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@wrote:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@<lightseeker15%40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@ wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has to do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any methods to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention that the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of the Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion. See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest you can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you call them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are extraterrestrials but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation. There are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the rest of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit" realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are, extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called spirits for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same, and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals and now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add that i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sigil is just a way to connect with them, especially if you don't know what
they look like, or what their essence is like. If you know what their
essence is like, then you can simply psychically connect to them and send
telepathic thoughts. You must do it with the intention of sending them
thoughts like you are talking to them though. Whole other subject and it
takes practice. Just think at them, and wait for their thought responses.
Meditation is good for quieting the mind, so your not like some person with
ADD who can't focus.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, John Blood <[ email redacted ] wrote:
I have another important question, I like to visualize the Demon (basedon
the ToZ descriptions) INSTEAD of their sigil, is that as effective or they
still can't hear me?
--- In <,
"Seth R" <jri9vero@... wrote:
just curious, what is your method of contacting the Gods on the astral?
I have found that chanting a God's name will attract varying sorts of
impostors and angels that will try to overpower you with their aura.
--- In <,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
I've proved it to myself that demons are on the astral, not on the
spiritual, though the ability does exist for them to cross over. Not
confirmed the physical, as the day they come down to a crowd in a UFO
and
say they are in fact those demons is when it will be confirmed, and I
know
it isn't just hallucination based off psychic or other unknown
influences
affecting me. You are entitled to your opinion, but I'll agree to
disagree
on this one small technicality as I must maintain a healthy dose of
skepticism. I am not really asking here, as this is based more off
seeing..
observation.
Another note, even though they may be nordics, there are also enemy
nordics
as well. The same goes for any race really.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Allison P <apocalypseofjon@wrote:
True that.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@<lightseeker15%40yahoo.com
wrote:
There are also things that we know while having zero physical
evidence
(because its almost impossible to get it) such as how many people
watch
TV
on a certain hour or wanna vote for a certain president before the
election.
Do they put camera and chips in all people to see what they're
thinking?No,
they do a survey instead. Sure, you can say thats an estimate but
isn't
it
evidence too? The same thing is about Demons, REALLY.
--- In <
<,
Allison P <apocalypseofjon@
wrote:
Well put.
On 10/12/09, lightseeker15 <lightseeker15@ wrote:
"Not only do I see you being shot down and laughed at by
christians(which is
the lowest you can get), but by the scientific community as
well."
OF COURSE dogmatists laugh at things they don't understand. I
DON'T
REALLY
CARE what those without think. And my message applies to
open-minded
Satanists who can try the methods I suggested, ask Satan, and
inquire
about
the Gods.
Not to dogmatic pseudoskeptics that dismiss everything that has
to do
with
aliens or supernatural while they don't bother to try any
methods to
experience it.
As how I'm qualified to have an opinion, I HAVE experienced and
verified
that and I believe I do. I'm not saying I'm an expert because
there is
no
such thing as an expert since everyone can ask Satan and confirm
that.
I
do
also recognize that I'm in a group with Zevists
having
same
experiences with me, no?I wouldn't be here if that wasn't true
and
didn't
agree with my experiences. Remember the ToZ site DOES mention
that the
Demons are Nordics.
If there a "bad" thing to say that would be that Demons are
spirits,
because
both the priesthood here and many others know that they are
physical
extraterrestrials!!
--- In <
<,
"lightseeker15"
<lightseeker15@ wrote:
There are many ways to verify that.
1)Do astral projection to Duat, a star in Orion, the home of
the Gods
and
you'll see them there.
2)Ask the Gods and they'll admit that.
3)Study many new age books where they admit that Angels are
aliens of
the
IGF and brag about their enemies the "evil nordics" from Orion.
P.S. I DON'T care what hypochristians or close-minded
pseudoskeptic
scientists say, I trust my experiences and what I get from the
Gods.
And I
suggest you do that too, communicate with Them instead of
thinking in
a
pseudo-skeptic way. :)
--- In <
<,
Allen Walker
<krystollsynth@
wrote:
The flaw with these statements are that you have no way of
verifying
for
a
fact there are physical aliens. Now that we have established
they
are
from
somewhere else (thank you for that one), how can you possibly
say
there
are
physical aliens, unless you can physically travel to Orion.
See?
This
argument is so easy to dispute its ridiculous. Not only do I
see
you
being
shot down and laughed at by christians (which is the lowest
you can
get),
but by the scientific community as well. All your allegations
pine
on
the
fact that you see things in other ways than the physical that
tell
you
things, which by the way can be real.
Did you know that entities, spirits, gods or whatever you
call them
can
either reside on the astral, the spiritual realm, or even
multiple
realms?
Some are prone to either of those categories. Though vague to
the
scientific community, that at least can be verified by the
numerous
psychics
and so forth. But talking about physical demons is a whole
other
level
which you are not qualified to explain on an expert opinion,
because
its
impossible.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
LOL You missed my point. I never said that there are Demons
on
EARTH.
I DID
said that Demons, greys, angels e.t.c. are
extraterrestrials but
they
are
not on earth. Demons are from the Orion constellation.
There are
greys
from
Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli e.t.c. You can easily find it by
doing
some
ufology
research.
--- In
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
So are you implying there are physical demons walking
around?
There
are
plenty of possessed crowds of goths who think they are
faeries
and
vampires
and in some rare cases demons. Let me ask you this about
your
experiences.
Can you for a fact verify that there are physical demons
around?
No tricks for someone who is just magickally or
psychically
talented, as
there are alot of those who mingle with the crowds from
time to
time, and
they sure are not ET's or demons, but humans like the
rest of
us,
who
have
trained at power meditation and or were just born with
their
gifts
active.
What is your criteria for verifying that there are
physical
flesh
demons?
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
...wrote:
I'm NOT talking about traditional demonology, I'm
talking
about
my
experiences I know they are ET's. Even ToZ acknowledges
them
as
so
this
is
obvious if you read the ToZ site.
And yes if you ever contact Satan or a God you'll find
that
they
don't
like
the term "spirit". They are also not in the "spirit"
realm,
their
ASTRAL
BODIES are in their astral realm. Their physical bodies
are
in
the
physical
realm. I recognize them for what they are,
extraterrestrials
who
use
astral
projection and telepathy and many people mistake Their
astral
bodies as
spirits. Thats why they've been mistakenly called
spirits for
centuries.
--- In
<
<
<
<,
Allen Walker <krystollsynth@ wrote:
It is funny you say that, because in demonology, they
are
considered
a
type
of spirit, as the word spirit is just a very broad
term
that
is
used
to
categorize. Goetic Spirits and Demons are the same,
and
then
people
started
calling them Gods and Goddesses, and then Immortals
and now
E.T.'s? I
think
before you just go off calling them the name of your
fancy,
that
you
should
recognize what they are, especially in relation to
every
other
being
that
resides in their realm and the related realms, which
happen
to
be the
spirit
realms.
On a top note, the movie "Paranormal Activity" just
came
out.
Happy
Halloween!
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:29 AM, lightseeker15
<lightseeker15@
wrote:
Oh thats blasphemous because first they are not
spirits,
they
are
Gods/Goddesses and real extraterrestrial beings and
second
they are
not
"it". Astaroth is the Goddess Isis and yes, is a
female,
a
She.
Sorry, but Horus is actually Purson. This is
mentioned in
the
ToZ
site.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ONVII.htmlExternal ↗
Hail Satan!!
--- In
<
<
<
<
<,
"Wright" <dswrightca@ wrote:
Flaures is the Egyptian god Horus. Google Horus
and
you'll
find
plenty of
images to work with.
I don't like to think of the goetic spirits as
being he
or
she,
but
of a
different type so i use 'it' to describe them.
And last but not least, Andras works great for
doing
heavy
damage. I
did
a working with Andras last year that had some
extremely
spectacular
results.
Andras does do some incredible work. I might add
that i
didn't
do
any
circle-casting or banishing during the rite, but i
felt
completely
safe.
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be
my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even
if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own
sword.. For
to
do so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows
his
own."
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--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend,
he
must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if
it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword..
For to
do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my
friend, he
must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it
means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For
to do
so
is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his
own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must
be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means
fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is
to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."
"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."
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