Is this something that can be 'granted'? Not in the sense of a consequence of being too deep into Izfet, but just dissapearing.
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Lead TranslatorWhy would such a fate be wished upon? Like most problems in life pain is temporary and in certain conditions can act as a catalyst for growth.
The point of Zevism is to become like the Gods and follow ethicality in our lives based on the principles of Ma'at. Wishing for such a fate is against the very principles of Zevism. Being mortals we can wish for such things but they don't align with the rules of nature and the ethicality of the Gods.
Best to get better spiritually and in life slowly and surely over multiple lives than wish for such a fate.
Stay strong and focus on bettering yourself
Active TranslatorNo.
No Zevist should ever consider ending their existence. Our destiny is Godhead - taking life to its conclusion of journey, completion and perfection of the soul, to move on to greater heights on the infinite and eternally satisfying ladder of ascension. It is about expansion and self-discovery, the beauty at the very core of life itself.
Complete soul death happens after lifetimes upon lifetimes of depleting energies, not engaging with life, not meditating, life hurting you more because of worse births and so on. Very unrealistic to ever happen for a Zevist, almost impossible for a Zevist who meditates, and also pointless to think about.
The updated Death and Afterlife page on ToZ states that the soul is immortal now, I thought?
Yurei wrote:View source The updated Death and Afterlife page on ToZ states that the soul is immortal now, I thought?
Well I don't believe that. I am not extremely spiritually advanced or anything but I did see a decaying soul one time by just focusing really strongly on a person and meditation on them I wasn't at the same place. But it appeared half the aura was gone and barely anything left of the chakras the rest was a dirty greenish color. I don't think that person will survive much longer when they die. She was extremely Christian and believing of all the mainstream narratives and most mainstream products are fine (that might be fine a few times but are not very healthy or good example McDonald's)
I think even in "total death" you'd just "reincarnate" but at a metaphysical level. It would just mean you start all the way from the beginning at the soul level with a completely new soul, which may or may not be human. I don't really think total non-existence is possible.
I think the same principle applies to the functioning of a human being who physically dies on earth. The person in question dies, their body can be used to fertilize the earth, sooner or later it crumbles into dust, its atoms will become something else. This isn't exactly "reincarnation" or "rebirth," but simply the fundamental components that make up the soul, and the very uniqueness of the soul, dissolve into the ether. The ether can be reused to create other, totally different souls, but it would forever lose the characteristics of what a soul was; it's as if it never existed. At that point, if you reach the total death of the soul, you will never be you again. At least that's how I see it. Furthermore, as I think, there could be two possibilities: as a human being, I experience the first death, the physical one, and then I experience the second, the definitive one of the soul. Either I am forever unconscious, in total nothingness, or the same pieces could form a soul with totally random and new configurations to which I would return to being conscious, not necessarily in human form, but as an animal, or something else.
չ∂αяквℓσω wrote:View source I think the same principle applies to the functioning of a human being who physically dies on earth. The person in question dies, their body can be used to fertilize the earth, sooner or later it crumbles into dust, its atoms will become something else. This isn't exactly "reincarnation" or "rebirth," but simply the fundamental components that make up the soul, and the very uniqueness of the soul, dissolve into the ether. The ether can be reused to create other, totally different souls, but it would forever lose the characteristics of what a soul was; it's as if it never existed. At that point, if you reach the total death of the soul, you will never be you again. At least that's how I see it. Furthermore, as I think, there could be two possibilities: as a human being, I experience the first death, the physical one, and then I experience the second, the definitive one of the soul. Either I am forever unconscious, in total nothingness, or the same pieces could form a soul with totally random and new configurations to which I would return to being conscious, not necessarily in human form, but as an animal, or something else.
This is exactly what I thought for years but who wants to chance this you could be anything anywhere in the universe it might not be a very great experience for you. I don't know what's out there but it's probably unlikely you would be a human again.
Active HelperSince your memory will be erased with the new reincarnation, you will not ask this question after death.
I recommend that you put dark thoughts out of your head and focus on improving your life and spiritual development.
I recommend that you think soberly and positively, and don't give in to gloomy thoughts.
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Perhaps if a person never meditated for many years (eons, reincarnation after reincarnation), their sould would become so weak, they could simply dissipate... Of course, this would happen (by the way, this is my hypothesis, not certain information) after the person exhibits countless problems in their spiritual and physical body because of a lack of energy (sexual problems, depression, etc etc...).
Would the Gods simply grant a person this desire? Would the Gods and Goddesses of life and light simply help a person reach eternal death? No, I don't think so...
On the contrary. Can you imagine how sad Zeus would be if his own child asked him to grant him eternal death?
Our Gods and Goddesses are such beautiful and joyous beings. They are pro-life and help humanity to advance. Humanity, unfortunately, has stopped listening, stopped believing, but those of us who are here and believe in them and are open to their help, truly realize just how far they are willing to go to help us. Help us, not destroy us...
Life is a beautiful journey Brother/Sister. But it can also be difficult and bothersome, and sometimes very sad and tragic. The bad parts of life help us appreciate the good ones. The difficulties help us build character. Help us grow strong.
Sometimes, when we experience something incredibly bad and negative, when we manage and heal from the trauma, we can help others through our experiences... Because life is a beautiful journey, and we are all in this together.
No, our Gods and Goddesses wouldn't grant anyone eternal death. Could they, technically, do it? I think there's nothing a God/Goddess can't do. But they wouldn't. Because they want us to live. They want us to try and to find happiness. That's why they help us and are on our side in each step of the way.