Astro "Criticism" Thread

Eric13 wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I’ve never done anything to harm this community.

Aren't you the same guy who was called out for harassing women in emails? :roll:

Blackdragon666 wrote:

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tabby wrote:

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Old comment guys. We’ve already moved past it. Already apologized and tried to clarify my intentions. It was a hastily written reply. Should of explained better. Nonetheless. It’s in the past. No ill intent meant. Sorry.

Anyone else who wants to reply on the that comment and not read my clarification arguments that fallowed. What can I say? Say your piece, express yourself. I probably won’t reply. It’s too many. You probably won’t read this either so none of it matters really. You’re allowed to be angry. It’s understandable. I was using a technique that worked wonders for me. Apparently for those here it doesn’t work. Swing and miss.

Blackdragon666 wrote:

Eric13 wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I’ve never done anything to harm this community.

Aren't you the same guy who was called out for harassing women in emails? :roll:

No. I don’t email anyone. I mind my business. I don’t know where that came from. But thanks for helping spread that false rumor more. On top of everything else. It’s making my night much better. Thanks.

Personally I loved it, the functionalities like clicking planets and getting all the info about them are extremely time saving, I literally had an open mouth when I was using it because it's just fantastic.

I don't think I'll finish reading all the stuff this guy is writing. Who does that to their own community. :roll: It's like a relative opening a food stall on the streets and you start trashing them, saying how it sucks because it's not a restaurant.

I want to again thank everyone who was involved. I personally understand how significant this is and can't wait to help it grow however I can over the next few years. I also can't wait to send each of you some positive runic energy through the Gods that will help each of you wherever in your lives it is needed. If I had Bitcoins I'd send them.

HAIL ZEUS!
HAIL APOLLO!

Blackdragon666 wrote:

I don't think I'll finish reading all the stuff this guy is writing. Who does that to their own community. :roll: It's like a relative opening a food stall on the streets and you start trashing them, saying how it sucks because it's not a restaurant.

I want to again thank everyone who was involved. I personally understand how significant this is and can't wait to help it grow however I can over the next few years. I also can't wait to send each of you some positive runic energy through the Gods that will help each of you wherever in your lives it is needed. If I had Bitcoins I'd send them.

HAIL ZEUS!
HAIL APOLLO!

As an astrologer yourself and also future astrologer for the ToZ I would really like to see a full opinion on this and what features you think would be additionally needed.

I think we definitely need Fixed Stars & Progressions. Then, I might need to write a full explanation [which would be equal to a book and possibly not able to be done now] with the aspects.

I would also include Chiron, although HPS Pythia has specified this body is not important or of zero importance in that all it says can be deducted from the rest of the chart. But I'd include this anyway as an interpretation just for those who might get anything of this. Then also Part of Fortune.

Let me know of any other thoughts you might have. I have also asked Lydia and I also invite any other Astrologer reading this to share their thoughts.

In a way that encourages actual building and criticism though...Remember that's our own community we are growing here, for our collective advancement.

This already looks like a seedy neighborhood fight.

It is time to step back and meditate for unity and enlightenment.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Blackdragon666 wrote:

I don't think I'll finish reading all the stuff this guy is writing. Who does that to their own community. :roll: It's like a relative opening a food stall on the streets and you start trashing them, saying how it sucks because it's not a restaurant.

I want to again thank everyone who was involved. I personally understand how significant this is and can't wait to help it grow however I can over the next few years. I also can't wait to send each of you some positive runic energy through the Gods that will help each of you wherever in your lives it is needed. If I had Bitcoins I'd send them.

HAIL ZEUS!
HAIL APOLLO!

As an astrologer yourself and also future astrologer for the ToZ I would really like to see a full opinion on this and what features you think would be additionally needed.

I think we definitely need Fixed Stars & Progressions. Then, I might need to write a full explanation [which would be equal to a book and possibly not able to be done now] with the aspects.

I would also include Chiron, although HPS Pythia has specified this body is not important or of zero importance in that all it says can be deducted from the rest of the chart. But I'd include this anyway as an interpretation just for those who might get anything of this. Then also Part of Fortune.

Let me know of any other thoughts you might have. I have also asked Lydia and I also invite any other Astrologer reading this to share their thoughts.

In a way that encourages actual building and criticism though...Remember that's our own community we are growing here, for our collective advancement.

Alright Brother. I will explore the site fully and make my post here in the course of the day. I am very pleased with the look and the fact that one can click on a planet and read its interpretation. Among other convenient features. Saturn alone can help many understand their lives as this planet often carries the bulk of karmic issues.

As someone who is relatively new to astrology, I can say that this site is amazing.

Instead of having 3 free astro sites open and a 60 page word folder where I took the information from Azazel's Astrology, having it all in one website right in the birth chart is really useful.

Thanks to everyone who worked on this. May the Gods bless you all.

Soul Wings wrote:

From what I can tell, there were only a handful of people working on this project, and I'm sure you understand a handful of people can only achieve so much.
I think it is also unfair to compare someone's first work of it's kind to established websites, especially if it's still a work in progress. I am sure they are working on more features and content. I appreciate that and can't wait to see what's in store.

Exactly. One person built it, with a tiny bit of help from a few others I think (I provided a bit of feedback and tested it before it was launched but that's all I did there). Compared to the other sites that had tons of money invested, hundred of astrologers and programmers involved, and years of trial and error, fixing and improving things. So to immediately insult it like Eric13 did is bs. Especially as it was build by a fellow Zevist for Zevism.

And Eric13, you keep insulting others, yet saying they are the ones insulting you. You have behaved terribly to HP Zevios Metathronos and others in this thread, with full-on verbal insults, and deflecting it back to them accusing them of insulting you, saying they they misunderstood you. Read what you wrote, you have very clear insults to Cobra and another in this thread. So don't act like you are innocent here when they are simply replying to what you have written.

Hidden Warrior did an amazing thing here, his work is sacred. He built this for us Zevists to use.

The data safety point of view should be also taken in consideration, better type sensitive data into a ToZ site with no tracking software embed, then in a "free site", mostly when something is free you pay with your data.

See this project like a child which is just born, it still needs to learn to walk etc and will grow into the best astro site online. You don´t want to disscourage the child /creator behind it, to make it grow.

Eric13 wrote:

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You could have written your critique like this without any downtalk and still providing the same info:

I miss the following features which I know from "free sites":
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The sites do them like this:.....

We could implement it like this.....

I have a a few other suggestions, changes for the site......

I would be happy if any suggestion, idear from me will be helpfull for the project.

Thank you all, for your hard work for the ToZ ASTRO site.

Woden wrote:

I'm not going to take sides here, but as expressed by different points of view, there is a pattern going on here. It is called, "foot-in-mouth-disease".

I had the same problem when I went into the navy and got into a few problems because of it. But a more mature, wiser person took me under his wing and showed me the art of communication; how to put things tactfully, respecting people's opinions and feelings. You won't go far or get the things you want unless you realize this. It doesn't matter where you are - this is simply life.

Some people have hang-ups or emotional problems because of a dysfunctional childhood or a mental breakdown, which causes them to be self-defensive, not respect or be unaware of other's feelings. It takes time and patience to deal with someone like that, but the person must decide to change and be prepared to accept other people's opinions and respect their feelings. Otherwise there will be a never ending repeat of the same situation as witnessed here.

As I said, I'm not taking sides, but someone initially said the wrong thing and should face up to that.

I still remember the words all those years ago, "change only happens because we make it happen".

I will do my best to help grow the community out of this. Over the years I have done titanic efforts to stop this from happening as I realize this is a destructive thing that comes from our own inner issues.

Even when I write some things like this, this is the backup process that runs in the back of my mind to finish off. Therefore I also explained why having a parasitic or pathetic mindset is also very dangerous and I insist on doing this and scolding this. There is no other way for human beings to escape from this.

With that stated that is also one of your wisest comments on the boards and thanks for the reminder. Your navy commander/superior sounds like a very good man worthy of your credit.

Over the years it feels like I was trying to solve something unstoppable, yet the fact that so many people have grown out of this tells me it's all very possible to achieve but as you state this has to do with understanding and maybe even meditation advancement.

NinRick wrote:

NakedPluto wrote:

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Damn now that you mention it, this site can also be used to promote the Temple of Zeus, I mean this is the ver first tool and application from the Temple of Zeus, when people who are into Astrology, see this, chances are actually very good they will read the site and spread the word.

Yes this can also be advertised without too much problems unlike other sites.

Eric13 wrote:

Okay, I'm an astrology buff, and over the last 10+ years have spent a lot of time on many free websites and apps. I was excited to see the ToZ have their own astro website, but when I visited I was disappointed to see the lack of features and content. No real insight into the self is gained. No advice or guidance on how to use the energy of the soul to your benefit or how to overcome things. These are things any astro site would provide for free. No descriptions of aspects or anything. Just a birth and transit calculator.

"No real insight"

Well, do share then. Generally its a given reality that you have to be able to understand what's in of yourself, of your own self and accord rather than reading a bunch of "facts" about things from books, not doing that and instead compiling them together in a finicky way, getting increasingly and increasingly stressed out as you have to pilfer through a jumble of disarranged factoids which might occasionally link together on the off-chance. I don't think its a given here, that the site is made for people who's minds operate on that level. You must be one of the bricks in the wall that Pink Floyd made songs about.

13th_Wolf wrote:

Not even that but I wrote to Hidden Warrior on the Astrology board, the great value of having precious astrological data of Zevism on our own database that is tied to the Temple of Zeus family, instead of lingering in the reach of the enemy. This individual has done a massive service and any comment on their work should open with only the utmost praise, coming from people of Satan that use astrology to learn about themselves. This is the beginning of something endlessly more glorious than "astrodienst" which the creation of that was guided under a reductive judeo-christian lens as per every system in the rapidly decaying enemy paradigm.

Everyone here is snubbing you right now, not whatever played out in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTgme55AeWI https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/iggypop/isnubyou.html

>I snub you
And when I snub
I really snub
I snub you finally, forever

There is no real database being used in anyway. The code that you do, generates in inverse the chart from scratch. It was a demand to keep the privacy factor on the highest.

We are also open if any programmer wants to check this, maybe Soaring Eagle 666 could get into this or some other established member to check this.

There is no need for any data saved or anything like this.

Eric13 wrote:

We are not ganging up on you, we are just trying to get through to you in the best way we know how. I don't have a problem with you personally at all. I think the fact that you've acknowledged you're outnumbered here in terms of discussion means (hopefully) you know deep down something's wrong with the intent of the thread, therefore the line of thinking. Perhaps you might think everyone's jumping in because a HP did, but we're all actually individual people that see something wrong here, and we're just pointing it out. We're not a hive mind, that's ridiculous and cultish.

I know it's not fun emotionally having your internal thoughts spurned by a community you love but this is the nature of discussion and forums. I know that you'll reflect on it because you seem intelligent and you do have the ability to think clearly. I hope that you can learn and grow from this discussion. Take it easy.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

13th_Wolf wrote:

Not even that but I wrote to Hidden Warrior on the Astrology board, the great value of having precious astrological data of Zevism on our own database that is tied to the Temple of Zeus family, instead of lingering in the reach of the enemy. This individual has done a massive service and any comment on their work should open with only the utmost praise, coming from people of Satan that use astrology to learn about themselves. This is the beginning of something endlessly more glorious than "astrodienst" which the creation of that was guided under a reductive judeo-christian lens as per every system in the rapidly decaying enemy paradigm.

Everyone here is snubbing you right now, not whatever played out in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTgme55AeWI https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/iggypop/isnubyou.html

>I snub you
And when I snub
I really snub
I snub you finally, forever

There is no real database being used in anyway. The code that you do, generates in inverse the chart from scratch. It was a demand to keep the privacy factor on the highest.

We are also open if any programmer wants to check this, maybe Soaring Eagle 666 could get into this or some other established member to check this.

There is no need for any data saved or anything like this.

Even better then. I suppose a database would be something potentially necessary only at a later point if and when there is a suggestion of a physical gathering. But I can see it causing issues given certain things.

I'm not a programmer but I know a little about coding and had an interest in it for a while. Not enough to check though, I could provide some wacky ideas on the astrology side though lol.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Blackdragon666 wrote:

I don't think I'll finish reading all the stuff this guy is writing. Who does that to their own community. :roll: It's like a relative opening a food stall on the streets and you start trashing them, saying how it sucks because it's not a restaurant.

I want to again thank everyone who was involved. I personally understand how significant this is and can't wait to help it grow however I can over the next few years. I also can't wait to send each of you some positive runic energy through the Gods that will help each of you wherever in your lives it is needed. If I had Bitcoins I'd send them.

HAIL ZEUS!
HAIL APOLLO!

As an astrologer yourself and also future astrologer for the ToZ I would really like to see a full opinion on this and what features you think would be additionally needed.

Lydia wrote:

Agreed. I've also had paid computer generated readings, and they were USELESS CRAP compared to what's on the ToZ. I was so happy to receive a reading from HPS Pythia back in the day, I finally felt like I knew myself and the bad things in my chart, as opposed to the useless crap from the other websites.

In order to learn astrology, one thing that really helps is to go over charts of other people (famous people in history is what I did a lot of, as well as relatives and friends), and see what is what. Not reading free resources from online websites (except for Azazel's Astrology on ToZ). So many lies, new-age crap, and random things that don't apply. And this is what Eric13 has "learned", lol.

I can see this site is very well made and more useful for experienced astrologers, but can there be tools for helping those new properly learn it? As Lydia said, seeing it done I think would be super helpful. I've read through the entire Azazels Astrology on our site, and for some reason it's just very hard to get the finer points like predictions, or transits. I try to wrap my head around this, and feel like I'd just need to see someone who actually knows what they're doing give a full reading on sample charts from others.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is a very visual learner, but it's really hard to wrap my head around all Azazels Astrology in text. I need to see it in action or practice to really learn something, and if I'm not the only one, this feature would help a lot of others.

Eric13 wrote:

Blackdragon666 wrote:

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tabby wrote:

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Old comment guys. We’ve already moved past it. Already apologized and tried to clarify my intentions. It was a hastily written reply. Should of explained better. Nonetheless. It’s in the past. No ill intent meant. Sorry.

Anyone else who wants to reply on the that comment and not read my clarification arguments that fallowed. What can I say? Say your piece, express yourself. I probably won’t reply. It’s too many. You probably won’t read this either so none of it matters really. You’re allowed to be angry. It’s understandable. I was using a technique that worked wonders for me. Apparently for those here it doesn’t work. Swing and miss.

Blackdragon666 wrote:

Eric13 wrote:

I’ve never done anything to harm this community.

Aren't you the same guy who was called out for harassing women in emails? :roll:

No. I don’t email anyone. I mind my business. I don’t know where that came from. But thanks for helping spread that false rumor more. On top of everything else. It’s making my night much better. Thanks.

You know how you keep playing victim is very disgusting. You won't lose anything if you just genuinely accept that you were wrong, apologize and work to better your character. The fact that your resolve was to play victim when called out for being inconsiderate is very telling of how pathetic you are as a person.

And you know very well what I am talking about. That time you tried to slander HPZM, saying he has fishy agendas and that we shouldn't trust clergy. And it was revealed about your behavior towards a female member.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=43537&p=187823&hilit=condescend#p187823

Shadowcat wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Eric13 wrote:

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love by the way how he totally exposed himself in that disgusting rat den today which i just saw, dissing you, HPS Pythia and TOZ. looks like the Rituals did their job.

Funny, my guardian gives me dates at times as you know...today was one of these dates, predicted on thanksgiving. at first i thought it was just a reminder of yuletime, or the day of my next cycle (which yes came true). but then someone mentioned him to me today and i randomly eyed that rat sewer as i do from time to time to see if theres defectors or if they are trying to pull something...there he was exposing himself today. another so called Zevism that complained about being miserable after 15 years and having the Gods do nothing for them...i wonder why that is. here we are Commander, another rat on the pile. Good riddance.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and happy yule :p

My intuition was always putting me on his case and this wasn't the first time I called him out. I actually think he's been with the Magestein crew all through and was part of the people who were subverting us. Watch out for folks who play professional victim for years, this is a favorite infiltrator tactic. Nobody cares about his worthless existence and he can keep spreading lies. When time to pay comes, they will all pay.

He was very strange, the energy I felt from him was negative, and as thus he was on my "not to take seriously" list.