Alcohol addiction

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Sunny wrote:

It should not be so difficult to stop drinking alcohol. Alcohol is not as addictive as nicotine or heavier substances.

One very important thing you need to do is to inform yourself about the effects and metabolism of alcohol in the body. Read and understand more about this.

Sorry, but you seem to have no inside knowledge of the subject.

The alcohol is brutally physically addictive, much more addictive than nicotine. At one level, withdrawal can kill you, so in severe cases, withdrawal requires medical supervision. It's the most insidious drug, and once you've been addicted you can never have another drink, because after one glass you fall back to the same level you got rid of 10 years ago with amazing speed.

An alcoholic works differently in this respect. An alcoholic can only relate to alcohol in one way, whatever he wants to do: abnormally. It is difficult to imagine or understand for someone who is not an alcoholic.

I read a long time ago on the subject and did not remember many details, I was mostly talking about personal experience and observation of others. I drink sometimes but it was never addictive. I have revisited the subject and confirm what you said, abuse is another thing of course. I don't abuse with food let alone toxins.

Dark Lawyer wrote:

What can I do?

I wanted to add to the previous that you could have karma that is holding you back from achieving your goals regarding career. I do not know where the setbacks of your life are excaclty, but this possibility came to my mind recently and I thought I should share it. The limiting factors could be elsewhere too. Freeing of the soul workings along with lots of yoga would help.

Henu the Great wrote:

I wanted to add to the previous that you could have karma that is holding you back from achieving your goals regarding career. I do not know where the setbacks of your life are excaclty, but this possibility came to my mind recently and I thought I should share it. The limiting factors could be elsewhere too. Freeing of the soul workings along with lots of yoga would help.

Thank you for your answers! I will write a reply about my programme (Ritual and others).

I love yoga, I am currently doing the Hatha pdf everyday (not just some asanas, but all of them from the pdf).

Unfortunately, Lydia no longer does astrological analysis and I am not up to it. An astrologer did a full analysis for me, but he is not Zevism, and the analysis includes some strange statements that are not typical of me.

As I've written before, career is not the only thing I've fucked up in my life. I am a total failure in the basic areas of life. Maybe it's karma, I don't know. It doesn't really matter how much karma plays a role in all this. What I do know for sure is that I have made bad choices that cannot be rectified at my age. I have no illusions. Every day I do what I can, but in these areas I try to build a fortress out of shit, which is impossible.

Sunny wrote:

I read a long time ago on the subject and did not remember many details, I was mostly talking about personal experience and observation of others. I drink sometimes but it was never addictive. I have revisited the subject and confirm what you said, abuse is another thing of course. I don't abuse with food let alone toxins.

You are right to be conscious of your diet and habits.

I no longer want to drink alcohol, and I'm glad I've stuck to my resolve for the past 3 years. I never managed to quit in the past. Then I found Zevism and Satan set me free from alcohol before my initiation.

Sunny wrote:

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Sunny wrote:

It should not be so difficult to stop drinking alcohol. Alcohol is not as addictive as nicotine or heavier substances.

One very important thing you need to do is to inform yourself about the effects and metabolism of alcohol in the body. Read and understand more about this.

Sorry, but you seem to have no inside knowledge of the subject.

The alcohol is brutally physically addictive, much more addictive than nicotine. At one level, withdrawal can kill you, so in severe cases, withdrawal requires medical supervision. It's the most insidious drug, and once you've been addicted you can never have another drink, because after one glass you fall back to the same level you got rid of 10 years ago with amazing speed.

An alcoholic works differently in this respect. An alcoholic can only relate to alcohol in one way, whatever he wants to do: abnormally. It is difficult to imagine or understand for someone who is not an alcoholic.

I read a long time ago on the subject and did not remember many details, I was mostly talking about personal experience and observation of others. I drink sometimes but it was never addictive. I have revisited the subject and confirm what you said, abuse is another thing of course. I don't abuse with food let alone toxins.

You have no idea what you're talking about, there's people that are addicted to it that literally die of withdrawal when they stop drinking it. Don't speak so lightly about things you don't know anything about.

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Thank you for your answers! I will write a reply about my programme (Ritual and others).

I love yoga, I am currently doing the Hatha pdf everyday (not just some asanas, but all of them from the pdf).

Unfortunately, Lydia no longer does astrological analysis and I am not up to it. An astrologer did a full analysis for me, but he is not Zevism, and the analysis includes some strange statements that are not typical of me.

As I've written before, career is not the only thing I've fucked up in my life. I am a total failure in the basic areas of life. Maybe it's karma, I don't know. It doesn't really matter how much karma plays a role in all this. What I do know for sure is that I have made bad choices that cannot be rectified at my age. I have no illusions. Every day I do what I can, but in these areas I try to build a fortress out of shit, which is impossible.

No problem. I will read your post later, then. I am glad you have newfound love with yoga.

I think you have half of your life, if not more left so I would not be so pessimistic. I would not be optimistic either, but realistically there are many years left for developing yourself, your community through you and so on. So just make the best of it!

Aquarius wrote:

Sunny wrote:

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Sorry, but you seem to have no inside knowledge of the subject.

The alcohol is brutally physically addictive, much more addictive than nicotine. At one level, withdrawal can kill you, so in severe cases, withdrawal requires medical supervision. It's the most insidious drug, and once you've been addicted you can never have another drink, because after one glass you fall back to the same level you got rid of 10 years ago with amazing speed.

An alcoholic works differently in this respect. An alcoholic can only relate to alcohol in one way, whatever he wants to do: abnormally. It is difficult to imagine or understand for someone who is not an alcoholic.

I read a long time ago on the subject and did not remember many details, I was mostly talking about personal experience and observation of others. I drink sometimes but it was never addictive. I have revisited the subject and confirm what you said, abuse is another thing of course. I don't abuse with food let alone toxins.

You have no idea what you're talking about, there's people that are addicted to it that literally die of withdrawal when they stop drinking it. Don't speak so lightly about things you don't know anything about.

Yes, you are right, I have to be more careful. I should have known more before advising.

Aquarius wrote:

Sunny wrote:

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Sorry, but you seem to have no inside knowledge of the subject.

The alcohol is brutally physically addictive, much more addictive than nicotine. At one level, withdrawal can kill you, so in severe cases, withdrawal requires medical supervision. It's the most insidious drug, and once you've been addicted you can never have another drink, because after one glass you fall back to the same level you got rid of 10 years ago with amazing speed.

An alcoholic works differently in this respect. An alcoholic can only relate to alcohol in one way, whatever he wants to do: abnormally. It is difficult to imagine or understand for someone who is not an alcoholic.

I read a long time ago on the subject and did not remember many details, I was mostly talking about personal experience and observation of others. I drink sometimes but it was never addictive. I have revisited the subject and confirm what you said, abuse is another thing of course. I don't abuse with food let alone toxins.

You have no idea what you're talking about, there's people that are addicted to it that literally die of withdrawal when they stop drinking it. Don't speak so lightly about things you don't know anything about.

So our friend definitely needs medical help, but also of course awareness and willpower to effectively detoxify from alcohol.

Henu the Great wrote:

No problem. I will read your post later, then. I am glad you have newfound love with yoga.

I think you have half of your life, if not more left so I would not be so pessimistic. I would not be optimistic either, but realistically there are many years left for developing yourself, your community through you and so on. So just make the best of it!

The programme as we agreed:

1. 12-hour shift: minimum AC/AP/VM, once a day.

2. 8-hour shifts: minimum AC/AP/VM, twice a day. And possibly once Ritual. But if I do Ritual, then AC/AP/VM is not enough. I need additional exercises before and after Ritual - see point 3.

Note: 8 hour shifts are rare.

3. Day off: I modified here. I don't think I should do Hatha yoga and Sat kriya twice in one day. One program would be AC/AP/VM, and for example alternate nose breathing and full yoga breathing.

And the other program would be the Ritual. Before that, 5 rounds of alternate nasal breathing, 8 full yoga breaths, the full Hatha yoga pdf, 3 minutes of Sat Kriya. And maybe 666 vibrations (that's 3x6 vibrations), and one session of Satanas vibrations.

After these preparatory exercises, Ritual.

After Ritual, AC/AP/VM and affirmations.

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It doesn't seem like much, and for example, the day before yesterday I did Hatha yoga pdf, Sat Kriya, pranayama even after my 12 hour shift.

But I can see that I will have time for less programs. New bosses have joined the company, and I work 12 hours three or four times a week (but sometimes only twice). In the meantime, I'm looking for a new job. I'm starting a 6-week strength training programme that I'm looking forward to and feel will be a breakthrough in my training. Afterwards, when I'm fit, maybe I'll try the traditional Hungarian martial art, Baranta. I don't want to write too much. The point is that I have to fit a lot of things into a week. For example, the 6-week training program I mentioned involves 4 bodyweight workouts a week and jogging/walking the other 3 days. (These are not long training sessions, but they are commonplace.)

And Hatha yoga and pranayama will also take more time in the future, because I've been doing it superficially. Right now I am learning the basics of the practices from two books (Swami Satyananda Saraswati: Asana Pranayama Mudra Bandha; B.K.S. Iyengar Yoga: The Path to Holistic Health).

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I don't really know how accurate my meditation/yoga/Ritual program will be. The two weak points are the day off before the workday, and any day off. I'm an owl type of person, it's a genetic birth trait that can't and shouldn't be changed. I work 12-hour shifts on relatively many days, getting up around 04.45 in the morning, which is abnormal for me. So I try to sleep in on my days off to make up for the 04.45. This means that, in keeping with my nature, I stay up late at night and then sleep until 11am. So on a day off, it's hard to manage two meditation programmes, as I sleep through the morning... I know that this is not ideal, but that's why I think that one meditation session on day off is optimal instead of two.

And the difficulty with the day off before the working day is that it's short and busy... I get up at 11 am, but I have to go to bed early in the evening because I get up at 04.45 am the next day. Short day, getting ready for work the next day, not easy to fit in a long meditation/yoga/Ritual program. Especially if there is strength training on the side. But I'll try to manage somehow. The best thing would be to get hired for the new job and work the same hours Monday through Friday.

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Finally, on Ritual. I don't know why I'm doing it so slowly. I'm doing it on the interactive site linked in your signature. I listen to the audio recording for the letter, then say the letter 9 times. Maybe I say the 9 sequences slowly, or I pay too much attention to pronunciation (I'm OCD to some degree, I tend to do things too slowly and precisely).

(I will post some thoughts on pessimism and such in the "Spiritual Support Thread - Never Give Up!" topic.)

Dark Lawyer wrote:

It doesn't seem like much, and for example, the day before yesterday I did Hatha yoga pdf, Sat Kriya, pranayama even after my 12 hour shift.

The important part is that you are doing something that will lift you up, consistently. This will help you keep your spirits high and on-track with 8 fold path. Later on you might want to try to do a bit more, or something with more complexity. It is natural to keep climbing.

The point is that I have to fit a lot of things into a week.

The way I see it, the longer and more you peel your unuseful layers out of your being and basically reinvent yourself the more in line you will be with your true self and this, at least I am thinking this way now, includes a lot of action and not much down time. Then again, the amount of leisure and down time will probably vary a lot between people even when they are advancing / advanced. Personal paths, after all.

And Hatha yoga and pranayama will also take more time in the future, because I've been doing it superficially. Right now I am learning the basics of the practices from two books (Swami Satyananda Saraswati: Asana Pranayama Mudra Bandha; B.K.S. Iyengar Yoga: The Path to Holistic Health).

Great, you seem to be right on track. Knowledge is power. :D

Finally, on Ritual. I don't know why I'm doing it so slowly. I'm doing it on the interactive site linked in your signature. I listen to the audio recording for the letter, then say the letter 9 times. Maybe I say the 9 sequences slowly, or I pay too much attention to pronunciation (I'm OCD to some degree, I tend to do things too slowly and precisely).

You can definitely do it faster than on the audio. As long as you are not mumbling it up doing it too fast I do not see why there would be a problem. The more you do it, the better you get at it. So once you get the hang of it, combining visualisation and intent with the whole ritual, you'll get it done faster, but also become more efficient anti-hebrew chanter. :)

(I will post some thoughts on pessimism and such in the "Spiritual Support Thread - Never Give Up!" topic.)

Ok!

I drink 12 beers every two days (I sleep away the hang over for like 12-15 hours). Honestly the best way to stop drinking is to cut back. My whole family are alcoholics but some are stopping now because of the new Irish Min alch law, they just can't afford it. My father drank at least 12 a day and cut back to 4 or 5, eventually stopped for a week (only drinking on the weekends). My brother went two weeks off it which is crazy to me, he drank tonight on friday and will probably stop again but used to be on it almost daily.

I didn't stop on the other hand because money is less of an issue for me yet I didn't drink as much as them. If they can do it , I can.

I think stopping dry is not the right way but I could be wrong. Cutting back and choosing days is what I'm going to do now. Even if you used to have 12 beers, try to do 8 and then gradually reduce it. I found replacing it with cans of sugar free coke/fanta/whatever helps because it tricks that part of your brain.

Having something to do is crucial however. I don't work or have friends so I'm more inclined to pick up the cans. Even if it's something simple like a video game to keep you distracted, do it. The worst is sitting around all day bored (like my father) and then running to the off licence. Honestly anything to keep you from your thoughts when quitting is very important.

Leeges wrote:

I drink 12 beers every two days (I sleep away the hang over for like 12-15 hours). Honestly the best way to stop drinking is to cut back. My whole family are alcoholics but some are stopping now because of the new Irish Min alch law, they just can't afford it. My father drank at least 12 a day and cut back to 4 or 5, eventually stopped for a week (only drinking on the weekends). My brother went two weeks off it which is crazy to me, he drank tonight on friday and will probably stop again but used to be on it almost daily.

I didn't stop on the other hand because money is less of an issue for me yet I didn't drink as much as them. If they can do it , I can.

I think stopping dry is not the right way but I could be wrong. Cutting back and choosing days is what I'm going to do now. Even if you used to have 12 beers, try to do 8 and then gradually reduce it. I found replacing it with cans of sugar free coke/fanta/whatever helps because it tricks that part of your brain.

Having something to do is crucial however. I don't work or have friends so I'm more inclined to pick up the cans. Even if it's something simple like a video game to keep you distracted, do it. The worst is sitting around all day bored (like my father) and then running to the off licence. Honestly anything to keep you from your thoughts when quitting is very important.

Please seek some type of help. 12 beers. 8 beers, that's very excessive. I know you said you were cutting back, but for reference, I battled alcoholism twice in my life and while I was drinking heavily, that's extreme. In such short periods, a couple days between... that's really bad.

Seriously. I'm not here to berate you.

But Brother. If you are drinking that much you need to seek professional help ASAP. You could damage your organs, brain, liver, your whole body.

If you want some encouragement. I thought I could drink heavy too. Then one day, I drank a bunch of whiskey and rum, and my heart stopped.

I laid on the floor as a cold blue corpse for an hour and a half. No pulse or respiration. Paramedics at that point wouldnt of been able to do shit, if they were called. They would of just checked my pulse and shoved me in a body bag.

If it wasn't for Zeus and the Gods I'd be a dead man.

Please do NOT make the same mistake I did.
Talk to your Guardian Daemon. Talk to Satan.

Seek help. You are a Zevist. You are valued, cared and loved. You are part of a community.

You can overcome this.

Leeges wrote:

I drink 12 beers every two days (I sleep away the hang over for like 12-15 hours). Honestly the best way to stop drinking is to cut back. My whole family are alcoholics but some are stopping now because of the new Irish Min alch law, they just can't afford it. My father drank at least 12 a day and cut back to 4 or 5, eventually stopped for a week (only drinking on the weekends). My brother went two weeks off it which is crazy to me, he drank tonight on friday and will probably stop again but used to be on it almost daily.

I didn't stop on the other hand because money is less of an issue for me yet I didn't drink as much as them. If they can do it , I can.

I think stopping dry is not the right way but I could be wrong. Cutting back and choosing days is what I'm going to do now. Even if you used to have 12 beers, try to do 8 and then gradually reduce it. I found replacing it with cans of sugar free coke/fanta/whatever helps because it tricks that part of your brain.

Having something to do is crucial however. I don't work or have friends so I'm more inclined to pick up the cans. Even if it's something simple like a video game to keep you distracted, do it. The worst is sitting around all day bored (like my father) and then running to the off licence. Honestly anything to keep you from your thoughts when quitting is very important.

I agree with serpentwalker666. It is now well established that even moderate alcohol consumption carries dangerous risks. It is also proven that alcohol damages the DNA of stem cells. If you're interested, I'll give you the details of the studies. There is no healthy level of alcohol consumption, it is an outdated myth.

Henu the Great wrote:

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Thank you for your reply. So you don't have to pay much attention to pronunciation and stress during Ritual?

(The 8 fold path is not yet known to me.)

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Henu the Great wrote:

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Thank you for your reply. So you don't have to pay much attention to pronunciation and stress during Ritual?

(The 8 fold path is not yet known to me.)

I paid attention to pronunciating more when I was new. I learned the guttural sounds as everything else was almost like speaking my own language. It should be noted that the rituals are effective without absolutely precise pronunciation as the method itself with intent is effective. That is not to say to get sloppy with it, but there are many factors at play, not just the pronunciation part.

The energy drain is something very easy to counter. Raise energy before and raise energy after (plus cleaning) and that's that. Yes, the rituals can tax energy reserves (especially when doing them for extended period) , but there are measures to counter that so I do not worry about that at all. For example, you can raise energy in between rituals by pranyama if you need.

Henu the Great wrote:

I paid attention to pronunciating more when I was new. I learned the guttural sounds as everything else was almost like speaking my own language. It should be noted that the rituals are effective without absolutely precise pronunciation as the method itself with intent is effective. That is not to say to get sloppy with it, but there are many factors at play, not just the pronunciation part.

The energy drain is something very easy to counter. Raise energy before and raise energy after (plus cleaning) and that's that. Yes, the rituals can tax energy reserves (especially when doing them for extended period) , but there are measures to counter that so I do not worry about that at all. For example, you can raise energy in between rituals by pranyama if you need.

Thank you! I made a mistake, because I didn't mean stress (energetic tension), but for the accentuation of Hebrew letters. :) Yes, I do the exercises before and after Ritual that I wrote about in one of my previous posts.

Please let me know if I'm trying your patience. But questions come to mind, and this is an older thought for me: what is your opinion/feeling about this book? What are the chances it is an authentic Satanic source?

Satanic Dreaming: An Introductory Guide to the Art of of Satanic Dream Yoga through Lucid Dreaming

by Neres Wane (2016)

https://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Dreaming-Introductory-Guide-through-ebook/dp/B01G6SV5GC

The introduction, the first 5.5 pages, can be read on amazon. A short text from which you, as an experienced Zevist member, might be able to draw some conclusions. If you have the time, of course. And you know English better than me. If you think the book is worth a try, I will read it.

I used to have a good sense of lucid dreaming, and I find it very exciting.

Thank you if you write your opinion!

Dark Lawyer wrote:

Thank you! I made a mistake, because I didn't mean stress (energetic tension), but for the accentuation of Hebrew letters. :) Yes, I do the exercises before and after Ritual that I wrote about in one of my previous posts.

Please let me know if I'm trying your patience. But questions come to mind, and this is an older thought for me: what is your opinion/feeling about this book? What are the chances it is an authentic Satanic source?

Satanic Dreaming: An Introductory Guide to the Art of of Satanic Dream Yoga through Lucid Dreaming

by Neres Wane (2016)

https://www.amazon.com/Satanic-Dreaming-Introductory-Guide-through-ebook/dp/B01G6SV5GC

The introduction, the first 5.5 pages, can be read on amazon. A short text from which you, as an experienced Zevism member, might be able to draw some conclusions. If you have the time, of course. And you know English better than me. If you think the book is worth a try, I will read it.

I used to have a good sense of lucid dreaming, and I find it very exciting.

Thank you if you write your opinion!

I do not stress about them because I got them pronunciations nailed. I learned them back in 2020 when I was starting out. Interestingly enough even the guttural sounds came off as easy even though in my language there are no such sounds. I guess it just clicked.

The preview pages did not load on my browser for some reason. Most likely you would have to filter a lot of nonsense from good bits so I would be cautious. This would apply to pretty much everything out there. Developing your psychic abilities and overall advancement helps to weed out unneccessary stuff.

Some practical tips for lucid dreaming: Keeping a dream journal and Introspective Meditation: Increasing Conscious Awareness - https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=285584#p285584

Henu the Great wrote:

I do not stress about them because I got them pronunciations nailed. I learned them back in 2020 when I was starting out. Interestingly enough even the guttural sounds came off as easy even though in my language there are no such sounds. I guess it just clicked.

The preview pages did not load on my browser for some reason. Most likely you would have to filter a lot of nonsense from good bits so I would be cautious. This would apply to pretty much everything out there. Developing your psychic abilities and overall advancement helps to weed out unneccessary stuff.

Some practical tips for lucid dreaming: Keeping a dream journal and Introspective Meditation: Increasing Conscious Awareness - https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=285584#p285584

Thanks for the link!

Leeges wrote:

I drink 12 beers every two days (I sleep away the hang over for like 12-15 hours). Honestly the best way to stop drinking is to cut back. My whole family are alcoholics but some are stopping now because of the new Irish Min alch law, they just can't afford it. My father drank at least 12 a day and cut back to 4 or 5, eventually stopped for a week (only drinking on the weekends). My brother went two weeks off it which is crazy to me, he drank tonight on friday and will probably stop again but used to be on it almost daily.

I didn't stop on the other hand because money is less of an issue for me yet I didn't drink as much as them. If they can do it , I can.

I think stopping dry is not the right way but I could be wrong. Cutting back and choosing days is what I'm going to do now. Even if you used to have 12 beers, try to do 8 and then gradually reduce it. I found replacing it with cans of sugar free coke/fanta/whatever helps because it tricks that part of your brain.

Having something to do is crucial however. I don't work or have friends so I'm more inclined to pick up the cans. Even if it's something simple like a video game to keep you distracted, do it. The worst is sitting around all day bored (like my father) and then running to the off licence. Honestly anything to keep you from your thoughts when quitting is very important.

In addition to professional help like they suggested to you, you can try gradually swapping with alcohol-free beers. They're just as disgusting in taste as normal beer, so you should be right at home with them. Even some major brands now sell them!

Stormblood wrote:

Leeges wrote:

I drink 12 beers every two days (I sleep away the hang over for like 12-15 hours). Honestly the best way to stop drinking is to cut back. My whole family are alcoholics but some are stopping now because of the new Irish Min alch law, they just can't afford it. My father drank at least 12 a day and cut back to 4 or 5, eventually stopped for a week (only drinking on the weekends). My brother went two weeks off it which is crazy to me, he drank tonight on friday and will probably stop again but used to be on it almost daily.

I didn't stop on the other hand because money is less of an issue for me yet I didn't drink as much as them. If they can do it , I can.

I think stopping dry is not the right way but I could be wrong. Cutting back and choosing days is what I'm going to do now. Even if you used to have 12 beers, try to do 8 and then gradually reduce it. I found replacing it with cans of sugar free coke/fanta/whatever helps because it tricks that part of your brain.

Having something to do is crucial however. I don't work or have friends so I'm more inclined to pick up the cans. Even if it's something simple like a video game to keep you distracted, do it. The worst is sitting around all day bored (like my father) and then running to the off licence. Honestly anything to keep you from your thoughts when quitting is very important.

In addition to professional help like they suggested to you, you can try gradually swapping with alcohol-free beers. They're just as disgusting in taste as normal beer, so you should be right at home with them. Even some major brands now sell them!

My stomach twists at the thought. Beer is bad enough as it is, but anybody who drinks non-alcoholic beer must really hate themselves.
How did this hogwash become such an ingrained part of western culture? At least sake and other spirits can have a pleasant flavor.