Why is everyone on here so against succubus and saying there’s a reason they removed their page on the website and that they are lower level demons do they not look human or suck energy and cause early death I just don’t understand why everyone on here is so against them I’ve talked to people on here about getting my own succubus and everyone told me no don’t do it and that there’s a reason why their page was removed from the website so sorry about rambling on but why is everyone so against them I just don’t understand can you give me some reasons?
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DiscipleofEshmun wrote:View source I'm starting to wonder if she was genuinely deluded at least early on. She did write about having sexual relations with Gods like Apollo if I remember well.
DiscipleofEshmun wrote:View source I'm glad you also remember it. HPS Pythia repeatedly talked about a sexual or romantic relationship with the Demon Azazel, whom we now know as Apollo. I don't think she was the type to hallucinate. I wonder what that was all about.
She wasn't. She wrote that she did many workings using sexual energies, which are different things.
Active TranslatorDiscipleofEshmun wrote:View source I'm glad you also remember it. HPS Pythia repeatedly talked about a sexual or romantic relationship with the Demon Azazel, whom we now know as Apollo. I don't think she was the type to hallucinate. I wonder what that was all about.
I never saw her mentioning any specific God, just the quotes she actually said above. I consider this horribly disrespectful to any Being let alone to the Gods to go brag around about them like this so I do not think she ever said such blasphemy. No one here ever did or will do. Those who do are heretics. Would you treat so even a human? If you yourself are a human, you would not.
High Priest Zevios Metathronos wrote: No it's not sacred, it's totally the opposite and Yehuboric knowledge work manifested in the Left Hand Path. Yes, because all of it is wrong and totally based in Hebrew and left hand path inaccuracies. It was never a thing in the Ancient Civilizations; there is no information on this besides incidents.
The work of "Succubi" and relating them to Gods comes from Yehuboric knowledge works, which tried to relate the Gods to this nonsense, such as how they will chase Timmy for his precious seed and want his major loving. This is just an inversion of Left Hand Path nonsense mixed with Yehuboric knowledge works in how "Lilith" is after your precious seed (Crazy Rabbis wrote these things).
There is nothing sort of this in the serious culture of the Gods. The arise of this came with young people watching anime popularizing Hebrew nonsense. The only actual historical source of this is Japanese pornographic anime and things like that. Tentacle monsters who are about to get you and Lord Octapus are not unfortunately not part of the Divine Pantheon and they don't exist guys and girls, I am sorry. As a result copious imagination was mixed with confusion and then you have people asking why their astral girlfriend doesn't give them the lottery numbers (as she said so).
The "summoning" whatever to relieve their basic urges (which should be redirected in relationship building) and becoming loner freaks that focus on thin air, is not part of the Eternal Culture. Gods and Demons aren't there for this exactly. It's just that people want to relieve themselves and to project this on Gods is just a sensitive topic.
Yes, I know they are really "hot" and related but this insanity how a cat lady is Satan's Wife is just not true. Proceed from this please. The girlfriend of a Demon is not dm'ing you she requires to find a boyfriend and stop projecting nonsense. Many people around to rodeo with, one doesn't need to pull the Gods into this rift.
Greetings! Thank you very much for your time, my Lord. I am not sure they meant anything of the basic urges that would be a real blasphemy. Do you think anyone is capable of such horrid blasphemy as to try to do ape things with The Gods? No one from general members mentioned the degrading words such as girlfriend or boyfriend, "husband of [put here name of the Goddess]" etc let alone those of known Gods mentioned on website. But solely pure platonic worship and devotion that should only be possible with Gods. But anyway we are here only to serve The Gods in the way they really want it. And give ToZ only those things it really asks for, if we wish to be true givers. Some humans also might be ideals for pure platonic worship - for creation and innovation in their honor for example.
DiscipleofEshmun wrote:View source I'm glad you also remember it. HPS Pythia repeatedly talked about a sexual or romantic relationship with the Demon Azazel, whom we now know as Apollo. I don't think she was the type to hallucinate. I wonder what that was all about.
Essentially, in the mind a person who does not understand the structure, they mistranslate the attraction based proximity to the Gods, for "erotic" feelings.
Hallucinate versus I know exactly what I am talking about, are two things. Eros in this context, means intense attraction (soul level), not "erotic" in the material way.
Lead TranslatorEdward Lonsa wrote:View source No one from general members mentioned the degrading words such as girlfriend or boyfriend, "husband of [put here name of the Goddess]" etc let alone those of known Gods mentioned on website. But solely pure platonic worship and devotion that should only be possible with Gods.
This is disingenuous because you were literally quoting disinfo about Daemon "lovers", and what HP Metathronos said stands whether or not your own version of it is a sexless delusion, and wasting away your life into a astral relationship that doesn't exist. In which case everyone has already a Guardian Deity which are teachers and friends, and not a type of "relationship" for excusing one's self-exclusion from inter-human relationships whether you idolize it as something Platonic or sexual.
Edward Lonsa wrote: I completely disagree with forcing unwanted lifestyles on good respectful people just because a lot of outsiders and lower people disrespect Gods. They will disrespect them anyway. Why good spiritual people who are in fulfilling relationship with Gods should be destroyed because some debils disrespect them? Why should they pay their debts? There are a lot of respectful Zevists, who NATURALLY need more ascetic lifestyle and ask God-Lovers for soul-mating and worshiping.
The Gods incarnated you with a body to live life with your fellow humans,
Life Ethics VI. - AGAINST Asceticism: https://templeofzeus.org/life_ethics_asceticism.phpExternal ↗
Also, if one thinks they're "not made" to be in a relationship with a fellow human (which is a lie), it's pretty arrogant to believe one is fit for a "relationship" with a literal God instead. Stating relationships and procreation is the norm isn't forcing anyone, it's stating the obvious of creation, the fact you always push against this despite no one here has forced you into anything is proof you have some serious deprogramming from hang-ups to do, and you don't really respect much the creation of the Gods you claim people should be "in love with".
You are the one promoting "unwanted lifestyles" that no normal human being here wants to hear about. Go find a human partner, or just you are so not into it, stop promoting this sexless (anti-LIFE) lifestyle here already because this is a disrespect against our God's creation, and it's pretty disturbing.
Edward Lonsa wrote:View source Do you think anyone is capable of such horrid blasphemy as to try to do ape things with The Gods? No one from general members mentioned the degrading words such as girlfriend or boyfriend, "husband of [put here name of the Goddess]" etc let alone those of known Gods mentioned on website.
You must be imagining that. We have had members claiming to be married to Queen Astarte, or wanting a succubus/incubus of the Gods, including of the Gods listed in the ToZ. It has been written here and among emails for many years.
High Priestess Lydia Coventina wrote:View source You must be imagining that. We have had members claiming to be married to Queen Astarte, or wanting a succubus/incubus of the Gods, including of the Gods listed in the ToZ. It has been written here and among emails for many years.
There was a certain member who claimed her partner or husband was the god Hephaestus, yet she was an extremely promiscuous woman who had no qualms about sleeping with many different men. I know this because I had a close relationship with her for years.
I'm sure some veteran members still remember. This is utter nonsense that needs to stop.
Wotanwarrior wrote:View source There was a certain member who claimed her partner or husband was the god Hephaestus, yet she was an extremely promiscuous woman who had no qualms about sleeping with many different men. I know this because I had a close relationship with her for years.
I'm sure some veteran members still remember. This is utter nonsense that needs to stop.
How much more one needs past a point to understand that this is just saga in people's minds and loins, and nothing that has to do with the Gods?
High Priest Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source How much more one needs past a point to understand that this is just saga in people's minds and loins, and nothing that has to do with the Gods?
Furthermore, despite being a Zevist for years, she had an Andrapod mentality and behavior in some aspects.
Active HelperWotanwarrior wrote:View source Furthermore, despite being a Zevist for years, she had an Andrapod mentality and behavior in some aspects.
So she was dedicated but wasn't really a Zevist. That's a pretty big club: people being dedicated but acting anything but...
High Priestess Lydia Coventina wrote:View source You must be imagining that. We have had members claiming to be married to Queen Astarte, or wanting a succubus/incubus of the Gods, including of the Gods listed in the ToZ. It has been written here and among emails for many years.
I remember a certain one talking about God Ares wearing a leather jacket, coming to get her on a motorcycle 😂 or whichever God it was also always showing up in a tailcoat to fit her standards of well-dressed 😂
Stormblood wrote:View source I remember a certain one talking about God Ares wearing a leather jacket, coming to get her on a motorcycle 😂 or whichever God it was also always showing up in a tailcoat to fit her standards of well-dressed 😂
If I remember correctly, the one who said that was a malicious infiltrator that was deliberately spreading misinformation, and when she was discovered and expelled, she created a certain forum along with Magestein to try to defame ToZ.
With this clue, I'm sure you already know who I'm referring to.
Stormblood wrote:View source So she was dedicated but wasn't really a Zevist. That's a pretty big club: people being dedicated but acting anything but...
In this case, she was a legitimate member with potential, but she never took her advancement seriously, and when things got tough, she left the forum and her duties in ToZ, and possibly also abandoned the spiritual path.
Stormblood wrote:View source I remember a certain one talking about God Ares wearing a leather jacket, coming to get her on a motorcycle 😂 or whichever God it was also always showing up in a tailcoat to fit her standards of well-dressed 😂
*cough* she was actually talking about Father Sorath *cough---*External ↗
Because it is pure escapism. Just like AI girlfriend. It does not improve your real life (even if she (spirit) is hypothetically real) and leads into deeper depression in the future because of loneliness in human world.
It causes schizophrenia and makes people lazy and escapist.