Other: #76992 Sanskrit and reading old Vedic texts

AskSatanOperator wrote:View source

If I were to learn Sanskrit, could I read uncorrupted versions of Bhagavad Gita and other books, or is the Sanskrit writings itself of these books corrupted at the core and not just translation issue

It is not easy to learn Sanskrit. It is extremely difficult. And still you should have the spiritual key to the text. Also because one Sanskrit term can mean many different things. So you really need this reading key. In general, the original Vedic texts deserve to be studied in depth. With ToZ's discernment filter we can learn many things now lost from there as well.

If I'm not wrong HP said that the older vedic texts are less corrupted. But generally he said that they are pretty corrupted. Search up the forum to confirm though.
Ancient Greek worth 500x more when it comes to the literature.

AFODO wrote:View source

If I'm not wrong HP said that the older vedic texts are less corrupted. But generally he said that they are pretty corrupted. Search up the forum to confirm though.
Ancient Greek worth 500x more when it comes to the literature.

Are you learning Ancient Greek?

Henu the Great wrote:View source

Are you learning Ancient Greek?

Not yet, I started earlier but decided to learn German first for personal reasons. Why?

AFODO wrote:View source

Not yet, I started earlier but decided to learn German first for personal reasons. Why?

I was just wondering if you could tell me hat is a good way to start it.

Henu the Great wrote:View source

I was just wondering if you could tell me hat is a good way to start it.

I personally enjoyed this playlist, he's a good teacher and avoids the corrupted modern pronounciations of letters: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv6_Ov62swq1RK46qzAO0Ph68rIJAWOvE&feature=sharedExternal ↗

Vivek wrote:View source

I personally enjoyed this playlist, he's a good teacher and avoids the corrupted modern pronounciations of letters: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv6_Ov62swq1RK46qzAO0Ph68rIJAWOvE&feature=sharedExternal ↗

HP HC said this pronunciation reconstructionism is made up bs, you can go with modern Greek:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/zevists-our-new-name-zeus-thunder-power-sat-zev.298695/#post-1127158

Henu the Great wrote:View source

I was just wondering if you could tell me hat is a good way to start it.

This is the material people are using https://ancient-forums.com/threads/ancient-greek-learning-group.293292
Taking in consideration the above, the books seem cool but you shouldn't go for these pronunciation guides.

Egon wrote:View source

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I don't think we are referring to the same things, I am in agreement with HP here.

Henu the Great wrote:View source

I was just wondering if you could tell me hat is a good way to start it.

Yes, what Egon sent is basically it, however there are some specific options, such as if somebody knows French, there is an Assimil course for Ancient Greek in French, Assimil courses are very good for language learning.

AG is a pretty hard language to learn, it's far away from English or Finnish, the books are also not the most entertaining, there is no options such as watching TV shows as with living languages. There are some graded reader books in that collection (basically all graded reader for AG is there) and some of them tells a story, these are the better books like Greek boy at home. Still not peak entertainment. There are also Grammar translation books there, which is usually the worsts, however the athenaze series stands out, I found it pretty good.

For these reason some may learn Greek first because because it's the closest living language to AG, about 50% similar.

Vivek wrote:View source

I don't think we are referring to the same things, I am in agreement with HP here.

How so? I just quoted you affirming the opposite of what I'm pointing out.
The teacher you're saying is good do not use the proper Greek pronunciation but the "ag reconstruction" like "Zdeta" nonsense.

AFODO wrote:View source

Yes, what Egon sent is basically it, however there are some specific options, such as if somebody knows French, there is an Assimil course for Ancient Greek in French, Assimil courses are very good for language learning.

AG is a pretty hard language to learn, it's far away from English or Finnish, the books are also not the most entertaining, there is no options such as watching TV shows as with living languages. There are some graded reader books in that collection (basically all graded reader for AG is there) and some of them tells a story, these are the better books like Greek boy at home. Still not peak entertainment. There are also Grammar translation books there, which is usually the worsts, however the athenaze series stands out, I found it pretty good.

For these reason some may learn Greek first because because it's the closest living language to AG, about 50% similar.

so is it more efficient to learn normal Greek first then Ancient Greek? bcoz i do want to read the original texts with actual accuracy and not just 50%. and i am not familiar with modern Greek literature, if it is good. but i dont plan to use it to speak to anyone, only to read old texts.

Egon wrote:View source

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Nvm, I totally misread the post.

Interesting. Maybe I was just mesmerised by the British accent haha. Will look into this

sinbad wrote:View source

so is it more efficient to learn normal Greek first then Ancient Greek? bcoz i do want to read the original texts with actual accuracy and not just 50%. and i am not familiar with modern Greek literature, if it is good. but i dont plan to use it to speak to anyone, only to read old texts.

Some people say it's a faster route, for some it may not be, look into it and decide for yourself.

Another route is learning French and use the Assimil course.
I can't tell what works for you. Me personally I have no problems with learning multiple languages, I may as well learn French and German and Greek in the next 4 years and than get to Ancient Greek more prepared.

AFODO wrote:View source

Yes, what Egon sent is basically it, however there are some specific options, such as if somebody knows French, there is an Assimil course for Ancient Greek in French, Assimil courses are very good for language learning.

AG is a pretty hard language to learn, it's far away from English or Finnish, the books are also not the most entertaining, there is no options such as watching TV shows as with living languages. There are some graded reader books in that collection (basically all graded reader for AG is there) and some of them tells a story, these are the better books like Greek boy at home. Still not peak entertainment. There are also Grammar translation books there, which is usually the worsts, however the athenaze series stands out, I found it pretty good.

For these reason some may learn Greek first because because it's the closest living language to AG, about 50% similar.

Well, I pretty much understand some of the letters as it is, and I think I can make anything happen when I set my mind to it. Thank you for your help.

AFODO wrote:View source

Some people say it's a faster route, for some it may not be, look into it and decide for yourself.

Another route is learning French and use the Assimil course.
I can't tell what works for you. Me personally I have no problems with learning multiple languages, I may as well learn French and German and Greek in the next 4 years and than get to Ancient Greek more prepared.

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im not concerned about difficulty or speed. i just want what im reading to reflect the exact accuracy of what the writer intended. i thought by learning the Ancient Greek first i wud get that, but HP seems to be saying the complete opposite. i dont even speak Greek but even i can tell the English translations are dogshit. sometimes it reads like straight gibberish.

sinbad wrote:View source

i thought by learning the Ancient Greek first i wud get that, but HP seems to be saying the complete opposite

What do you mean? If you learn Ancient Greek you'll be able to understand the text better, because in translations, there are a lot of interpretations.
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Also there have been a lot of people who learned Ancient Greek without learning Greek or any other language so it's possible if somebody wants that.