Chakra below muladhara?

[Johndoe667]

Greetings to all SS gentiles

I has recently thinking about the relationship between chakras and colors, and how there are seven colors and all of them combine make up white which is the eight color, and i was thinking about the color black and how there isn't any chakra that is black in color, at the time i was thinking about this i was reading norse mythology, the Hávamál and i was reading it because i was studying about the tree of life which is the human soul how it is presented in different pagan cultures anyway... I was reading the Rúnatal part you know.. the rune song, where odin sacrifices himself in the tree to himself

I know that I hung on a windy tree
nine long nights,
wounded with a spear, dedicated to Odin,
myself to myself,
on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run.

No bread did they give me nor a drink from a horn,
downwards I peered;
I took up the runes,
screaming I took them,
then I fell back from there

And at the same time i was thinking about the colors of the chakras and how the are eight main ones and then i thought about the number of nights odin hang on the tree, nine nights, and i thought about how the ninth chakra above the head is either white or yellow in color and not black, now i also know the relationship between the color red and the color black and how both of them relate to the planet saturn and also the kundalini, and them I thought about how there could be one hidden chakra that is a counterpart to the ninth chakrah above the head which is white/yellow, one occult chakrah below the red muladhara chakra that is black in color, i thought about this and them i started meditating to see if that could be true, and sure enough i felt something below my spine, i felt it below the muladhara and it felt exactly like if it was a chakra, and if you meditated on the chakra above the head you may have noticed that it feels a little different and weird compared to the other chakras as if it was way bigger, there is usually a pulling sensation in the region, well... I felt this exact same sort of feeling below my muladhara chakra, do you think there is something there or i am just mistaken?

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Only by the Kundalini presence, this can be experienced, in certain points and advancement as a shining complex infinite black, that which then unfolds itself. The inner body becomes the deepest black, that is shining. The color black is more complex and not usable in the form of meditation, but encountered in some states.

The Serpent is the blackest one, among other complex cues.

 

[Johndoe667]

Only by the Kundalini presence, this can be experienced, in certain points and advancement as a shining complex infinite black, that which then unfolds itself. The inner body becomes the deepest black, that is shining. The color black is more complex and not usable in the form of meditation, but encountered in some states.

The Serpent is the blackest one, among other complex cues.

The symbolism about the serpent is very interesting, the native aboriginals of australia have a ancestral religion centered around a rainbow serpent god that is said to hide itself in the most profounds water holes, and there is also the ouroboros symbol which is a serpent that bites it's own tail, i find it funny how white is the sum of all the seven colors of the rainbow while black is the absence of them, maybe that's what the head and tail means right? The chakra above the head which is white and the one below the spine which is black, a white sun and a black sun, hey nakedpluto do you think if i were to try and visualize this black chakra below my spine and then move it through all off my seven chakras until it reaches the white chakra above the head do you think this could cause me any harm because of the colors black?

 

[Korpi]

The Gold Chakra is above the head.

There is no "Black Chakra" beneath the Base Chakra.
NakedPluto was talking about the Kundalini Serpent, which is coiled beneath the Base Chakra.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Only by the Kundalini presence, this can be experienced, in certain points and advancement as a shining complex infinite black, that which then unfolds itself. The inner body becomes the deepest black, that is shining. The color black is more complex and not usable in the form of meditation, but encountered in some states.

The Serpent is the blackest one, among other complex cues.

The symbolism about the serpent is very interesting, the native aboriginals of australia have a ancestral religion centered around a rainbow serpent god that is said to hide itself in the most profounds water holes, and there is also the ouroboros symbol which is a serpent that bites it's own tail, i find it funny how white is the sum of all the seven colors of the rainbow while black is the absence of them, maybe that's what the head and tail means right? The chakra above the head which is white and the one below the spine which is black, a white sun and a black sun, hey nakedpluto do you think if i were to try and visualize this black chakra below my spine and then move it through all off my seven chakras until it reaches the white chakra above the head do you think this could cause me any harm because of the colors black?

First, feel and see your normal chakras before imagining about black chakras.

The whole purpose of a chakra is to be luminous, not black. If you do not understand the explanation from before, resume at properly doing the formal steps on JoS as to not accidentally promote antithetic ideas to yourself.

You see black there because there is only black, ie. nothing, no chakra.

Circulating black color in your chakras is something antithetical to logic, so you must ask yourself why.

 

[Johndoe667]

Only by the Kundalini presence, this can be experienced, in certain points and advancement as a shining complex infinite black, that which then unfolds itself. The inner body becomes the deepest black, that is shining. The color black is more complex and not usable in the form of meditation, but encountered in some states.

The Serpent is the blackest one, among other complex cues.

The symbolism about the serpent is very interesting, the native aboriginals of australia have a ancestral religion centered around a rainbow serpent god that is said to hide itself in the most profounds water holes, and there is also the ouroboros symbol which is a serpent that bites it's own tail, i find it funny how white is the sum of all the seven colors of the rainbow while black is the absence of them, maybe that's what the head and tail means right? The chakra above the head which is white and the one below the spine which is black, a white sun and a black sun, hey nakedpluto do you think if i were to try and visualize this black chakra below my spine and then move it through all off my seven chakras until it reaches the white chakra above the head do you think this could cause me any harm because of the colors black?

First, feel and see your normal chakras before imagining about black chakras.

The whole purpose of a chakra is to be luminous, not black. If you do not understand the explanation from before, resume at properly doing the formal steps on JoS as to not accidentally promote antithetic ideas to yourself.

You see black there because there is only black, ie. nothing, no chakra.

Circulating black color in your chakras is something antithetical to logic, so you must ask yourself why.

Well you said it yourself that this can be experienced through kundalini activation, as an infinite blackness which unfolds itself, and like i said i felt a pulling sensation similar to what the chakra above the heads feels like, i didn't perceived this sensation as black or having any color at all, i just visualized a black sphere in the place where the sensation was coming from below my spine, because of the relation of the color black and red and saturn like i said, and about the eight chakra above the head, i know it is stated on jos that it is golden and not white and i always visualized it that way, i just recently started visualize it as white because i thought that this would be the exact opposite of the color black that i was also visualizing beneath my spine, you read my other post's nakedpluto you know that i was reading the emerald tablet and That's the reason i was testing those things that i explained, i didn't try to spread any ideas at all, i asked the forum if i was mistaken... I don't understand why you would perceived things that way, i'm making these posts because i have questions and i want to ask more advanced people about their opinions and stimulate debate that's all.

 

[Johndoe667]

Only by the Kundalini presence, this can be experienced, in certain points and advancement as a shining complex infinite black, that which then unfolds itself. The inner body becomes the deepest black, that is shining. The color black is more complex and not usable in the form of meditation, but encountered in some states.

The Serpent is the blackest one, among other complex cues.

The symbolism about the serpent is very interesting, the native aboriginals of australia have a ancestral religion centered around a rainbow serpent god that is said to hide itself in the most profounds water holes, and there is also the ouroboros symbol which is a serpent that bites it's own tail, i find it funny how white is the sum of all the seven colors of the rainbow while black is the absence of them, maybe that's what the head and tail means right? The chakra above the head which is white and the one below the spine which is black, a white sun and a black sun, hey nakedpluto do you think if i were to try and visualize this black chakra below my spine and then move it through all off my seven chakras until it reaches the white chakra above the head do you think this could cause me any harm because of the colors black?

First, feel and see your normal chakras before imagining about black chakras.

The whole purpose of a chakra is to be luminous, not black. If you do not understand the explanation from before, resume at properly doing the formal steps on JoS as to not accidentally promote antithetic ideas to yourself.

You see black there because there is only black, ie. nothing, no chakra.

Circulating black color in your chakras is something antithetical to logic, so you must ask yourself why.

This is nigredo right? The first stage in alchemy, i tought about all of this because of the concept of the tree of life and the odin rune poem nine long nights, i thought that chakras are of the visible light spectrum which are the seven colors that combined make up white which is the color of the sun

I mean there is no doubt about it the sun is white, it emits wavelengths that corresponds to the seven colors of the chakras, and it peaks in the green part of the spectrum, if the sun was not white but some other color or combination of colors we wouldn't even be able to see certain colors in the same way, the sun only appears yellow because the atmosphere scatters uv and blue light, that's also the reason the sky is blue... I mean that's some very basic knowledge here folks.

Here we have the sumerian sumerian tree of life, which is a metaphor for the brain, spine, nervous system and chakras, the deity hovering above it is associated with the sun

Where we have the 4 stages on alchemy nigredo, albedo, citrinitas and rubedo and i tought how these could relate to the chakras, if you read about the chakras if may know it was first created by the hindus and it wasn't like the seven colored chakras we have today, it was only five chakras i believe, only later it would evolve to be like the seven chakra we have today that corresponds to the light spectrum, now if the sumerians had a secret chakra system and this tree of life is an indication that they created the chakra system before the hindus that's another discussion altogether

The first hindu chakra system and the Buddhist one Was Similar to this

Where we have another tree of life that's from medieval Europe i believe, you know many cultures had different trees of life, they were all different from one Another...

And then we have the emerald tablet text that originated alchemy and is related to the philosoper's stone the secret of secrets that could heal any disease and could be the key to immortality

Truth! Certainty! That in which there is no doubt!
That which is above is from that which is below, and that which is below is from that which is above,
working the miracles of one [thing]. As all things were from One.
Its father is the Sun and its mother the Moon.
The Earth carried it in her belly, and the Wind nourished it in her belly,
as Earth which shall become Fire.
Feed the Earth from that which is subtle,
with the greatest power. It ascends from the earth to the heaven
and becomes ruler over that which is above and that which is below.

I just thought about how there are all these different trees of life, and after Reading the emerald tablet i just tried to visualize my chakras like in the way i explained, one black ball of energy outside my body beneath the first red chakra all of the rest of thee chakras in their original position and a white ball of energy on top of the crown chakra, that which is above is like that which is below to work the miracles of one thing, i just tought about how this relates to black and white sun concept that i explained and how that in turns could relate to the heart chakra which is the union of the male and female chakras the neuter one, and how there could be a space inside the two green pyramids of the heart chakra that could be the key to the philosoper's stone, you know... Like ascending this black sun until it reaches the chakra above the head and then descending it back down again or descending the chakra above the head until it reaches the space below the spine, or meeting them both in the middle in the heart chakra I don't know, i'm just speculating here folks i'm not saying that this concept that i created is right and that Jos is wrong, it's just an idea i had and i want to know your opinion.